Remember Your First Read? What surprised you the most?
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The first time I read it, I didn't realize the full extent of what happened. My mind didn't really process it, because it wasn't expecting it. When my mind finally did process it, yeah, that kind of shocked me.
I always thought what was done to Pietten was worse, though. Of all the events that transpired, that was the most disturbing for me.
Finding out who Elena's father was ranks up there, too. One of those things that should've been obvious, but... Then her whole lust for TC. Kinda freaky.
I always thought what was done to Pietten was worse, though. Of all the events that transpired, that was the most disturbing for me.
Finding out who Elena's father was ranks up there, too. One of those things that should've been obvious, but... Then her whole lust for TC. Kinda freaky.
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The rape of course. Mainly because I didn't at all expect or have previously encountered a main character that could comitt such a crime in a such a random moment. To me the whole scene was a juxtaposition. Too unreal.
Another surprise is the immense toleration that some characters showed toward Covenant after his crimes. Some people like Mhoham, Lena, and her daughter seemed to be a little....TOO passife for somebody like Thomas.
Another surprise is the immense toleration that some characters showed toward Covenant after his crimes. Some people like Mhoham, Lena, and her daughter seemed to be a little....TOO passife for somebody like Thomas.
I have to agree with Kastenessen. When Elena summoned Kevin to battle Foul it was simply spectacular. To take a character that was just a part of the history and mythology of the land and then involve him in the story in that way was pure genius.
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[quote="SHATTERSTAR"]My first and most shocking suprise came very early in the first book.
Yeah, that pretty much blew my mind too. It wasn't that I found it too gross or anything; it just struck me right there that the chronicles were way different than any other fantasy story I read.
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Lena's rape
Yeah, that pretty much blew my mind too. It wasn't that I found it too gross or anything; it just struck me right there that the chronicles were way different than any other fantasy story I read.
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Frostal. I like it.
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
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Bah! Stupid English teachers....
It's like having some savant-idiot walking around behind you pointing out your faults. Oops, you spelled forestal wrong. Oops, you didn't say that right.
You just know that these jerk offs are the kinds of people who will or do work in a business that requires ties but doesn't necessarily require good salaries. Meanwhile their boss will be looking over their shoulder, oops you didn't make that report out right, oops you were late by 2 minutes.
GROW UP! And stop pestering people for minor errors you arrogant %$&*!
It's like having some savant-idiot walking around behind you pointing out your faults. Oops, you spelled forestal wrong. Oops, you didn't say that right.
You just know that these jerk offs are the kinds of people who will or do work in a business that requires ties but doesn't necessarily require good salaries. Meanwhile their boss will be looking over their shoulder, oops you didn't make that report out right, oops you were late by 2 minutes.
GROW UP! And stop pestering people for minor errors you arrogant %$&*!
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Ahh, witness the righteous fury of the anonymous guest. That's a lot of inferences. Not that I feel any need to justify my comment, but I did think it was cool. Would you care to know why, ye master of assumptions? What most of those who have been here for a while and are a bit observant know is that my last name is Frost (hence the avatar), and I have a bit of fondness for the forestall. Happy?
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For fun, though, allow me to point out your mistakes.
Man, I get a kick out of that.Anonymous wrote:Bah! Stupid English teachers....<<fragment>>
It's like having some savant-idiot << idiot savant >> walking around behind you pointing out your faults. Oops, you spelled forestal wrong. Oops, you didn't say that right.
You just know that these jerk offs are the kinds of people who will or do work <<awkward>> in a business that requires ties but doesn't necessarily require good salaries. Meanwhile <<comma>> their boss will be looking over their shoulder, <<run-on>> oops you didn't make that report out right, <<run-on again>> oops you were late by 2 minutes.
GROW UP! And stop pestering people for minor errors you arrogant %$&*!
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Hehe, common Syl, give him a brake. Its not that hard to understand him. I for one, am also annoyed when people nit-pick my spelling errors and such (not that I'm indicating you did).
Like I said, I write and make sure that people understand me.
As long as
ppl g3t wut i'm sayin i doncare how many errors i make
Like I said, I write and make sure that people understand me.
As long as
ppl g3t wut i'm sayin i doncare how many errors i make
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I agree. I make plenty of mistakes. Hell, most of the time I don't even use complete sentences. Just giving the guest a hard time.
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
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