World of Warcraft

Post by **[Syl]** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:19 pm

Ouch. Since you said The Onion I kept waiting for the punch line. Never saw it. Knowing The Onion, that's probably a sad reflection upon myself.

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:45 pm

www.picamatic.com/show/2009/07/13/12/44 ... 24x768.jpg

Posing with my new Noseguard.

Post by **Damelon** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:01 pm

Syl wrote:Ouch. Since you said The Onion I kept waiting for the punch line. Never saw it. Knowing The Onion, that's probably a sad reflection upon myself.

I thought it was a neat satire. They haven't had a "Larry Groznic" article in a while.

Here's the latest pic of my rogue, Murimli.

Post by **Sorus** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:29 am

I have issues. I like creating DKs, and lose interest in them as soon as they leave the starter zone. Maybe they need to create a Scourge faction? Maybe it's the traumatic experiences I had in SM as a low level?

Blizz has issues. Who designs toeless plate boots? And what's with the red toenail polish? I'm picturing DKs sitting around the runeforge painting their nails after a hard day of killing Scarlet Crusaders.

Anyway, here's Legacy's URL bumped for easy access to Ulduar video links.

www.legacyofthescryers.wowstead.com/

Be sure to watch 'em before next week.

Post by **Creator** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:14 pm

Sorus wrote:... And what's with the red toenail polish? I'm picturing DKs sitting around the runeforge painting their nails after a hard day of killing Scarlet Crusaders. .

er ... I thought that was BLOOD from a kick thru the body!!

Post by **Sorus** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:41 am

Uh, yeah... that's what it is.

I'd better be careful, wouldn't want to break a nail.

Evil Scourge DK plan would work better if I could take BElfs seriously. I'm going to level her in the starter zone until she can't get exp anymore, then leave, abandon the 'speak to your leader to get a pardon' quest, and declare war on every faction I encounter. This would work better on a hardcore RP server.

Post by **Damelon** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:56 am

The Armory really seems to be lagging in updating character information. It's showing my rogue at level 28, with the gear he had then. Considering he's level 38 now, it's not very handy as a guide.

Post by **Sorus** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:22 am

Hasn't updated in over a week. Remind me to not log out with my fishing pole equipped.

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:56 pm

I tried to register on the Legacy forums, but apart from it being very laggy and crashing on me twice, it also told me Kysen was already taken as a username.

Post by **Damelon** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:35 pm

Watch what you say in game chat. From the Indianapolis Star:

Johnson Co. gamer investigated for threat

By Jason Thomas
Posted: July 14, 2009

A Johnson County man who told investigators that he was merely testing a theory could face federal charges after he told deputies he threatened to blow up a commercial airliner.

The 18-year-old, who lives in the 4000 block of Ridgemere Drive, Greenwood, told Johnson County deputies that he was playing a popular online role-playing game early Monday morning when he issued a threat that he "was going to board a plane at 7:30 to Chicago and that (he) was going to try and kill as many Americans as possible," according to an incident report from the sheriff's department.

A facilitator with an online gaming center alerted authorities after she noticed several messages from the man, who was playing "World of Warcraft," threatening to blow up an airliner.

The man, who originally told investigators that someone had hacked into his computer, admitted he jokingly made the threats, which did not name a specific airline, because he had heard that merely doing so would bring police to his house, "but I didn't really believe it," he said in a written statement.

A representative from Blizzard Entertainment, the online gaming site, would not disclose the exact content of the chat logs to investigators without a subpoena, but she said the logs seemed "very serious" and did not seem like jokes.

The man's computer was seized as evidence.

The Federal Bureau of Investigations, which took over the investigation, could file charges with the U.S. Attorney's Office, according to the affidavit.

Post by **[Syl]** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:39 pm

Heh. There was an episode of NCIS last season that rested on the premise that terrorists could use a MMORPG to coordinate attacks. Of course, their version of WoW sounded god awful.

Post by **Web Monkey** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:03 pm

Murrin wrote:Change I like: T9 will only have one armor token, that can be exchanged for any piece of the set. That reduces the number of token drops from 15 to 3.

I wonder how this will change raid looting rules. Suppose competing with only one other character for loot: With bad rolls you could lose every week as someone gets 5 tokens (1 a week). There won't be many people saying "I have it already, I pass" until they get a full set.

I'm sure the people we play with regularly will find a friendly way to make it work, but it seems like the luck is changing from "what drops" to "who rolls well".

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:07 pm

Who will get the biggest upgrade in the slot they'll use it for.

Post by **Madadeva** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:59 pm

And on the other hand ... fewer DE's due to being unusable!

Post by **lucimay** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:31 pm

its so hard to get everyone together in one spot to discuss so i'm going to put it out there on here, if, as the core starters of the watch wow guild, we all agree, then we can take it to those on the wow watch guild who are not on KW.

i propose we take the level 80 toons we most often raid with to Legacy's guild.

(omg, the crowd murmurs, did she say that out loud)

yes virginia, i said that out loud.

dudes, have you SEEN their tidyass guild vault???

we've already got nortoni, nixxe, and stormbreak over there.
i'm feeling weirder and weirder by the day that i'm not working
my little level 14 pally (lostarayil) that i put over in legacy.
we all know how often i'm gonna work on an alt.
the toon i raid with (until such time as i DO level another toon to
raiding age) is Irvea. she's the toon i should move to Legacy.

part of the reason that the name of the new guild is Legacy is that its
a "legacy" of The Watch and Arcanus Draconum. it IS a joined guild.
i say its time to move us over there.
do exactly as they have done with AD, leave all our lower level alts that
we're workin up in the Watch guild.

Kell has said time and time again that it doesn't matter if you want to
raid or not, that's not a requirement. she knows that there are some
watchers that are not on as often or are not interested in running the
raids and just want to do their own thing (pvp or leveling or whatever
that entails.) they have several members who are the same. eolin
jumps out as one of those members. she doesn't ever go on the raids,
just plays her toons and makes tons of gold and buys lots of mounts
and stuff.
anyhow, they've left their lower lvl alts in AD and work em up there.
i propose we do the same with the watch.

i think we should all go to gether rather than in dribs and drabs.
i wanted to propose this here so that Sheriff Raest could be included
in the discussion. (we miss you sheriff and kell and dray have asked
after you several times.)

anyhow, there it all is. kell told me if kysen comes over she'll immediately
make him an officer so's he can lead raids and shit.

and kell is a good guild mommy.
and their guild bank is the freakin tidiest guild bank known to humanity.
okay, that is all.
i await your comments.

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:38 pm

Personally, I like keeping the Watch guild tag, even if I am raiding as a Legacy player. Cross guild communication isn't a problem, with the chat channel and calendar. I don't think it makes much difference which guild we're in, just that we're involved.

And even if, as far as raiding goes, we're all one group, I still like the Watch people having the guild tag to share, because that's where we came from.

I've said in the past I'd consider taking Timkins over, but in the end I think that since he's not my main raiding toon, it won't be much more than a gesture, so there's no real reason to. Turning up to the raids is gesture enough.

Post by **[Syl]** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:55 pm

Well, I'm not there, so of course you're all welcome to do as you please. If I was, I'd vote Kysen's way. But as an outside observer... I say rip the band-aid off. The Watch only manages to keep the core group of players we've had for the last year or so, and I think many of those are equally invested in other guilds. I think if we were really serious about it, we'd recruit (selectively) and use the guild board. As is, everyone on KW can still easily keep in touch via friend lists and this thread.

If I came back (I really want to in October, but not sure how much time I'll have with an 18 credit schedule), I doubt I'd be joining Legacy. Honestly, I've never been a fan. Not antagonistic, either, but... no one from AD ever talked to me outside of a couple raids. And I wouldn't expect them to, but it does make me wonder why they'd ask about me. If it wasn't for The Watch, I'd probably roll with Elan and them. Chalk it up to a guy thing, I guess.

edit to add - also, if Legacy really means those of both guilds, I'd expect Kysen to be 2nd in command.

Post by **Damelon** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:40 pm

Right now, I'm focusing on leveling Murimli and am only logging into Ro and Ado in order to brew him up some pots and scrolls. If I moved one of my 80's I think they would have a, reasonable, expectation that I would actually come along on raids once in a while. I don't think it's time, at least for me, to move. Also, aside from Kell and the migrated Watchers, I don't really know anyone there.

Maybe in the fall, when the weather starts to go cold and there's less competition with outside activities, I would bring one of them over.

Post by **Madadeva** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:33 pm

I have moved Stormbreak into Legacy and will move Devaguhya since both are raiding and being geared by Legacy runs. [Discussed with Kysen and he said he didn't have a problem - it was my decision.] It just feels like the right thing to do for me.

It is nice having so many toons that I can be well represented in both.

We have had discussions in the past about challenges running raids and instances. My first focus had been on leveling multiple toons - but not really worrying about 'gearing' for instance or raid progressions. I still find it fun to level

. However, as I have gotten involved in raids - I have enjoyed contributing and understand the importance of improving my gearing and play (although I don't think I will ever be as expert as Kysen or Sorus! - they are so much better at research and WoW "math"!) I have seen the Watch, as a guild, discuss recruitment processes ... and running raids. We have been challenged by both (running raids due to lack of Watch only toons - Kysen is great at running raids and Kell volunteered her member list to Kysen openly.) Frankly, its a lot of work!! And personality 'drama' management to be a guild leader or raid leader. I would not want the job! But Kell and Drayec seem to do well as building and leading a raiding guild. And they have been extremely generous to the Watch. When I went to move Stormbreak, Kell's first question was "Is Kysen ok with the move." I admire that sensitivity and fairness.

As to DO, I have no problem with any of their members or their guild leader. I do think his approaches are more aggressive in recruiting than Kell's and I prefer hers. I do not make that as a 'value' judgment on Elan .. or anyone. It is not my place to judge. I simply prefer the Legacy / AD approach to cultivating and growing a guild. Others can legitimately decide differently. [I did die a LOT more on DO runs!

]

And when it is all said and done ... it is a game. It is supposed to be an escape from the pressures and dramas of RL. It is supposed to be an opportunity to socialize with people you like and share common interests with.

Post by **Web Monkey** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:19 am

Madadeva wrote:I have moved Stormbreak into Legacy and will move Devaguhya since both are raiding and being geared by Legacy runs. [Discussed with Kysen and he said he didn't have a problem - it was my decision.] It just feels like the right thing to do for me.

It is nice having so many toons that I can be well represented in both.

We have had discussions in the past about challenges running raids and instances. My first focus had been on leveling multiple toons - but not really worrying about 'gearing' for instance or raid progressions. I still find it fun to level . However, as I have gotten involved in raids - I have enjoyed contributing and understand the importance of improving my gearing and play (although I don't think I will ever be as expert as Kysen or Sorus! - they are so much better at research and WoW "math"!) I have seen the Watch, as a guild, discuss recruitment processes ... and running raids. We have been challenged by both (running raids due to lack of Watch only toons - Kysen is great at running raids and Kell volunteered her member list to Kysen openly.) Frankly, its a lot of work!! And personality 'drama' management to be a guild leader or raid leader. I would not want the job! But Kell and Drayec seem to do well as building and leading a raiding guild. And they have been extremely generous to the Watch. When I went to move Stormbreak, Kell's first question was "Is Kysen ok with the move." I admire that sensitivity and fairness.

As to DO, I have no problem with any of their members or their guild leader. I do think his approaches are more aggressive in recruiting than Kell's and I prefer hers. I do not make that as a 'value' judgment on Elan .. or anyone. It is not my place to judge. I simply prefer the Legacy / AD approach to cultivating and growing a guild. Others can legitimately decide differently. [I did die a LOT more on DO runs! ]

And when it is all said and done ... it is a game. It is supposed to be an escape from the pressures and dramas of RL. It is supposed to be an opportunity to socialize with people you like and share common interests with.

This sorta sums up how I feel. Absent a guild-wide consensus on what to do, we all have to make our own decisions on where we want our characters to be. It would be great if we could all make a collective decision, but honestly we all have our own (valid) viewpoints and different motivations in WoW (PVP, casual leveling, goofing off, raiding etc.)

I will put some serious thought into what to do with Jhemtar. I don't have a connection to The Watch through being a member of Kevin's Watch; because I only signed up for Kevin's Watch because I am Lucimay's friend and she pulled me into WoW and Donaldson (seperately). However, I do have a emotional and practical connection to The Watch because it is where I spent much of my formative time in WoW. The people who advised and helped teach me the game were from The Watch, and they all provided a great, friendly, relaxed atmosphere to play the game. So I have an eternal connection to everyone involved in The Watch, and never want to lose that.

On a practical side, I also enjoy being a fish in a small pond. Moving to Legacy would take some adjustment because I wouldn't feel like I had "the power" to randomly invite a friend to join the same guild I am in. I would be part of "something bigger" (which has pluses and minuses!). The only qualifier I would mention about joining a new guild is that, while I commit myself to whatever guild I am in (ie resonsibilities, raid schedules etc.), I will not get involved in Drama. I won't avoid someone just because others dislike them. I am an adult and I pick my own friends. I don't subscribe to guilt by association or anything like that.

I was hoping there would be a consensus so I could just go with the prevailing winds, but as I mentioned above I will have to make a decision for Jhemtar solely based on my gut feeling.

As it stands right now, I plan on keeping Jhemtar in The Watch and Nortoni in Legacy. I really really like all the folks over at Legacy, and find myself chatting wtih them (in Vent, and BunnySlippers) just as much as I do with people from The Watch. As Madadeva and Lucimay have said, the Legacy folks are very helpful and fun; there seems to be a great "chemistry" between us all. I would not hesitate to move Jhemtar to Legacy, except for the fact that I want to keep one foot in each for the time being. I want the best of both worlds! If a time comes where I have to choose between the The Watch and Legacy, I don't think there is a wrong or losing choice between the two. It's win-win.