Surpassing Sequels

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:32 am

If there is a worst sequels thread I'll add Army of Darkness. It's one of the most painful movies for me to watch - boring and unfunny.

Post by **matrixman** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:57 am

Loremaster wrote:If there is a worst sequels thread I'll add Army of Darkness. It's one of the most painful movies for me to watch - boring and unfunny.

I know this film has a big (and fierce?) cult following, but I agree with you, Lore. I went to the film on a whim way back when it came out. I came out of it feeling indifferent to it. I would have said "MEH!" had that expression been around back then.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:11 am

Thanks, Matrixman. It reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Fail . . .I mean Grail. The only thing driving both movies is fanboyism.

Post by **Orlion** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:35 am

matrixman wrote:
Loremaster wrote:If there is a worst sequels thread I'll add Army of Darkness. It's one of the most painful movies for me to watch - boring and unfunny.
I know this film has a big (and fierce?) cult following, but I agree with you, Lore. I went to the film on a whim way back when it came out. I came out of it feeling indifferent to it. I would have said "MEH!" had that expression been around back then.

I'll add my disapproval to this movie (we got to stick together!). It was the first of the Evil Dead series that I saw on recommendation by a friend that I would enjoy it because it was funny. I chuckled once, but the rest was just tedious. Because of that, I didn't give the other movies a try until a few months ago when I saw Evil Dead II, which, IMO, is infinitely more entertaining than Army of Darkness.

Loremaster: Can't say I agree with you on Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but your play on words gave me a good laugh. I will say this, though, I can only enjoy this movie in the company of others. It's not funny if I watch it alone.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:27 pm

A lot of good ones on the list. I still say Temple of Doom is tied with Highlander 2 for worst sequel in history. Glad they didn't list that one, too!

Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:42 pm

??? They did. They had it further up than Last Crusade. Growing up, I really like ToD...but I watched it a year ago, and wow is it's overall style and delivery, err, juvenile?

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:47 pm

Sorry, I wasn't too clear. I meant I was glad they didn't list Highlander 2. Bad enough ToD was there.

Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:54 pm

I've looked at many lists on the net...and none are good! (hehe) but, really, who wants a list they agree with, where'd the fun be!

I guess I'll make my own:

1. Godfather II
2. Empire Strikes Back
3. Dark Knight
4. Terminator 2
5. Toy Story 2
6. Return to Oz (it's not really a sequel as films go)
7. Jedi
8. Alien 3
9. Aliens
10. Color of Money
11. Last Crusade
12. Wrath of Khan
13. Desperado
14. Army of Darkness
15. Spidey 2
16. Naked Gun 2 1/2
17. Die Hard 3
18. Voyage Home
19. Bourne 3
20. Bourne 2
21. X2
22. Back to the Future 3
23. Back to the Future 2
24. Young Guns 2
25. Ace Ventura 2

HM: Grumpier Old Men, Christmas Vacation, City Slickers 2, Bad Boys 2, Batman 3, Austin Powers 2

Haven't seen: Evil Deads, Road Warrior, Drunken Master 2, couldn't sit through any of the Leone trilogy (smirks at all the dropped jaws) and never seen the fourth film.

Does Letters from Iwo Jima count? If it does, it would take my #4 spot.

Post by **matrixman** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:02 am

Loremaster wrote:Thanks, Matrixman. It reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Fail . . .I mean Grail. The only thing driving both movies is fanboyism.

Holy Fail...hahaha...harsh, but funny! Years ago I might have eagerly jumped to the movie's defense. But...it's been years since I last watched it. Some scenes still tickle me when I think about them, but haven't felt the urge to buy the movie.

jacob Raver, sinTempter wrote:I've looked at many lists on the net...and none are good! (hehe) but, really, who wants a list they agree with, where'd the fun be!

That's true. Of course, it's always nice to see a favorite film appear any list (except if it winds up on someone's "worst films" list). I haven't seen a great number of sequels, but these are top favorites:

1. Terminator 2 - watched this for the umpteenth time last week, and it still wowed me from start to finish
2. The Empire Strikes Back - reminds me how truly awe-inspiring the SW universe was at one time
3. 2010 - intelligent sequel that holds its own against the implacable original
4. Wrath of Khan - MONTALBAN!
5. Blair Witch 2 (I know I'll be laughed out of the room for this one, but I maintain it's a clever take on the original's premise)

Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:09 am

Blair Witch 2 was a decent film.

Haven't seen 2010...want to. Hmmm.

Post by **Usivius** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:43 pm

17. Die Hard 3

nono... really?...

well, for me, there is no better action movie than Die Hard (1). It set the standard for all else that came after...

Just to add one more... "The Four Musketeers" was slightly better than "The Three Musketeers" (the Richard Lester versions! -- far superior to any other versions --- ever! Including the new 3D version that is going to be made.. ugh...)

Post by **Cail** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:08 pm

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Die Hard With a Vengeance was the best action movie of the '90s. Great sequel, and a damn good stand-alone story as well.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:41 am

jacob Raver, sinTempter wrote: Haven't seen 2010...want to. Hmmm.

See it soon!

Post by **Cail** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:51 am

dlbpharmd wrote:
jacob Raver, sinTempter wrote: Haven't seen 2010...want to. Hmmm.
See it soon!

Yeah, 2010 is a real gem of a film. Very different in tone and feel from its predecessor, but very, very good on its own.

Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:06 am

While Die Hard hasn't aged well...it is THE action film of all time.

Post by **Cail** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:34 am

Die Hard hasn't aged well? I beg to differ.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:20 am

matrixman wrote:
Loremaster wrote:Thanks, Matrixman. It reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Fail . . .I mean Grail. The only thing driving both movies is fanboyism.
Holy Fail...hahaha...harsh, but funny! Years ago I might have eagerly jumped to the movie's defense. But...it's been years since I last watched it. Some scenes still tickle me when I think about them, but haven't felt the urge to buy the movie.

Don't listen to him, MM! Holy Grail is one of the great comedies of all time!! Fantastic movie!! :LOLS:

Post by **matrixman** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:50 am

Haha...well, I'm not gonna turn around and say "Ni!" to Lore...

Maybe they need to make a sequel to Holy Grail to revive interest in it. (Heh)

Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:14 am

I can totally understand anyone who doesn't like Holy Grail...it's silly slapstick...the first time I saw it I was drunk at 5 in the morning - laughed my assoff!!! But I'm into slapstick and quick wit like Men in Tights and Dumb and Dumber, too.

Post by **ItisWritten** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:15 am

matrixman wrote:Haha...well, I'm not gonna turn around and say "Ni!" to Lore...

Maybe they need to make a sequel to Holy Grail to revive interest in it. (Heh)

Wasn't Life of Brian a sequel?

I mean, they went from the Holy Grail to the Crucifiction (pun intended).

Okay, maybe a prequel?

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Surpassing Sequels