Haruchai questions

A place to discuss the books in the FC and SC. *Please Note* No LC spoilers allowed in this forum. Do so in the forum below.

Moderators: Orlion, kevinswatch

User avatar
Relayer
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 1365
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:36 am
Location: Wasatch Stonedown

Post by Relayer »

yep, me too. FWIW, so does Scott Brick.
"History is a myth men have agreed upon." - Napoleon

Image
User avatar
peter
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 12204
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:08 am
Location: Another time. Another place.
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by peter »

hpty603 wrote:Hm, I've always pronounced it har(soft h, more like 'ar')-EW-chai (rhymes with rye)
yes - but chai as in cheesecake, or chai with a hard c as in kite? (sorry to be a pedantic b*****d but I am interested in this - even to the point of compilng a list of all the possible ways it can be done. I say 'Har' as in Ha Ha, Roo, as in the kanger kind and chai as in Kite :D).
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!

....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard
User avatar
wayfriend
.
Posts: 20957
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:34 am
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 6 times

Post by wayfriend »

peter wrote:I say 'Har' as in Ha Ha, Roo, as in the kanger kind and chai as in Kite :D).
Me, too, or just about. HAR-roo-kye. I think we're in the minority, and we disagree with Donaldson to boot. But after 28 years I can't change.

Probably I've been influenced by names like Malachai.
.
User avatar
Relayer
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 1365
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:36 am
Location: Wasatch Stonedown

Post by Relayer »

Yea, that's like me with Ranyhyn. SRD apparently pronounces it Ron-uh-hin but I've always said Ran-yin.
"History is a myth men have agreed upon." - Napoleon

Image
User avatar
peter
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 12204
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:08 am
Location: Another time. Another place.
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by peter »

Relayer wrote:Yea, that's like me with Ranyhyn. SRD apparently pronounces it Ron-uh-hin but I've always said Ran-yin.
Yes - I'm with 'Ran-yin' too. I think once a word is in the public domain the pronunciation is with the mass of the readership rather than with the author - and hell, who said there has to be only one way of saying a word; I'm from the UK and I can't understand people from 100 miles up the road let alone at the other end of the country! :lol:
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!

....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard
User avatar
Relayer
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 1365
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:36 am
Location: Wasatch Stonedown

Post by Relayer »

LOL. It doesn't matter how we each pronounce a name when we're reading... but when we're talking with someone else there can be confusion, since even in the public domain we don't all say it the same. Or when I'm listening to the audiobooks it just sounds weird when I hear something pronounced totally differently.
"History is a myth men have agreed upon." - Napoleon

Image
User avatar
peter
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 12204
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:08 am
Location: Another time. Another place.
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by peter »

Relayer wrote:LOL. It doesn't matter how we each pronounce a name when we're reading... but when we're talking with someone else there can be confusion, since even in the public domain we don't all say it the same. Or when I'm listening to the audiobooks it just sounds weird when I hear something pronounced totally differently.
Fully agree on that. In fact I get embarrased to say a word/name that I don't know how to pronounce properly in case it sounds stupid to the people to who I am talking. This is probably the reason why I posted the question in the first place! :D
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!

....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard
User avatar
Thorhammerhand
Elohim
Posts: 179
Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:21 am
Location: Hertford, UK

Post by Thorhammerhand »

hpty603 wrote:Hm, I've always pronounced it har(soft h, more like 'ar')-EW-chai (rhymes with rye)
:goodpost:
If we all follow Berek's code of warriors then the world would be full of the worst warriors imaginable.
krillarbran
Stonedownor
Posts: 31
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:31 pm
Location: Wales, UK

Post by krillarbran »

ooh ranyhyn.... due to me being Welsh and all the letter 'y' on its own as a word in the Welsh language means "the".... and you pronounce the "y" as ERH (kind of lol difficult to put it in writing). so I have always said RAN-ERH-HIN
User avatar
wayfriend
.
Posts: 20957
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:34 am
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 6 times

Post by wayfriend »

I say RAN-a-hinn or RAIN-a-hinn, depending on my mood.

I guess because I see yh as vowel-consonent, not a digraph (like th or sh).
.
User avatar
Thorhammerhand
Elohim
Posts: 179
Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:21 am
Location: Hertford, UK

Post by Thorhammerhand »

ranyhyn (ra-ni-hin) for me, but then i'm dyslexic so I always seem to stress the wrong syllables.
If we all follow Berek's code of warriors then the world would be full of the worst warriors imaginable.
User avatar
Kaydene
<i>Haruchai</i>
Posts: 531
Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:17 am
Location: CA

Post by Kaydene »

I also do some variation of that: Ra (as in "rain") ni (as it "nip") hin
"This is the room where Jezebel frescoed her eyelids with history's tragic glitter." ~Tom Robbins

Image
User avatar
sindatur
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 6503
Joined: Wed May 14, 2003 7:57 pm

Post by sindatur »

Ronnie-Hin
I Never Fail To Be Astounded By The Things We Do For Promises - Ronnie James Dio (All The Fools Sailed Away)

Remember, everytime you drag someone through the mud, you're down in the mud with them

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass...
It's about learning to dance in the rain

Where are we going...and... WHY are we in a handbasket?

Image
User avatar
Bill Assumpcao
Servant of the Land
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:17 pm
Location: Port Angeles, Washington

Post by Bill Assumpcao »

Hideeho folks,

ranyhyn-to me?- ran-ya-hin
ran-Jane ran to the mailbox
ya-You didn't bring your pick-up with ya didj ya?
hin-Dick brought his truck with hin (sp ;) )
But, what do I know?
BillA
never use a quiet tool...when a loud one will do
User avatar
Krazy Kat
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 1664
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:44 am
Location: Sky Blue City England

Post by Krazy Kat »

Hi BillA



Down the years I've always read the names the easiest way I know how, and that's phonetically. And I suppose most of you do the same.

Sometimes I'll take a lateral viewpoint when trying to glean some extra insight into why the Haruchai do what they do...

as with Haru - chai, the chai as in the word chain or chairoscuro, to indicate the self-imposed bondage of their vow, and the slavery of their sleeplessness, which tells me just how passionately they felt towards High Lord Kevin and the survival of the Land.


With the Ranyhyn, I always hear it as the nickering sound a horse makes, but with a more pronounced, hee hee hee hee hee
Last edited by Krazy Kat on Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
peter
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 12204
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:08 am
Location: Another time. Another place.
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by peter »

Krazy Kat wrote:With the Ranyhyn, I always hear it as the nickering sound a horse makes, but with a more pronounced, hee hee hee hee hee
Yes, I like that - that makes sense in a kind of onomatapeic way :D
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!

....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard
krillarbran
Stonedownor
Posts: 31
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:31 pm
Location: Wales, UK

Post by krillarbran »

peter wrote:
Krazy Kat wrote:With the Ranyhyn, I always hear it as the nickering sound a horse makes, but with a more pronounced, hee hee hee hee hee
Yes, I like that - that makes sense in a kind of onomatapeic way :D
Gosh, imagine having Ranyhyn on your tshirt and a group of friends ask what does it say..... lol. you burst out neeieieieieigigh :biggrin:
User avatar
soft one
Ramen
Posts: 82
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:07 pm
Location: Broken Arrow, OK

Post by soft one »

I've always pronounced Haruchai as Har-oo-kai, but more recently I've wondered if it is supposed to be pronounced like chai tea (chy).
Covenant turned in time to see a short figure detach itself from the burning mud, step queasily onto the hard ground.

The figure was scarcely taller than the skest, and shaped like them, a misborn child without eyes or any other features. But it was made of mud. Flames flickered over it as it climbed from the fire, then died away, leaving a dull brown creature like a sculpture poorly wrought in clay. Reddish pockets embedded in its form glowed dully.
User avatar
peter
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 12204
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:08 am
Location: Another time. Another place.
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by peter »

Ridiculous as it sounds, I think I actually have a range of mental pronunciations for use when reading Donaldsons unpronouncable words and names.
Does anyone else for example ( and I doubt it) pronounce the 'ru' in the center of haruchai as 'raw', so you have ha - ha ha, ru - raw, chai - ki as in kite. Ha raw ki. (This could be my favorite pronunciation).
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!

....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard
User avatar
Thorhammerhand
Elohim
Posts: 179
Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:21 am
Location: Hertford, UK

Post by Thorhammerhand »

That's the joy of books, we can all have our own pronunciations and interpretations of the different facets of the books.
If we all follow Berek's code of warriors then the world would be full of the worst warriors imaginable.
Post Reply

Return to “The First and Second Chronicles of Thomas Covenant”