The need to re-read
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The need to re-read
I have finished reading the First and Second Chronicles and am now falling down with Linden, Anele and the rubble of Kevin's Watch in TROTE. It has been an enlightening experience in a number of respects.
One is that each time I re-read the earlier Chronicles, in particular the First, I find myself reading them differently and understanding them more empathetically than previously. For instance, I can now pretty much understand why Covenant just about had to act the way he acted for most of The First Chronicles in the light of the self-protective disciplines he'd had to learn as a leper - "I'm a coward! Lepers have to be." (Although I must admit I still find his behaviour and remarks immediately after the battle of Soaring Woodhelven insufferable!) I say "just about" because the whole point of the Chronicles is that you always have a choice that makes a difference.
Another is that the three year gaps between volumes of The Last Chronicles makes it more important than in the earlier Chronicles to re-read each one before the next appears, if only to remind oneself of events in TROTE and FR which may not have seemed like much at the time but which are quite possibly going to acquire great significance in the last two volumes (such as Jeremiah's structures in Linden's home which I've posted about in another thread).
What do others think?
One is that each time I re-read the earlier Chronicles, in particular the First, I find myself reading them differently and understanding them more empathetically than previously. For instance, I can now pretty much understand why Covenant just about had to act the way he acted for most of The First Chronicles in the light of the self-protective disciplines he'd had to learn as a leper - "I'm a coward! Lepers have to be." (Although I must admit I still find his behaviour and remarks immediately after the battle of Soaring Woodhelven insufferable!) I say "just about" because the whole point of the Chronicles is that you always have a choice that makes a difference.
Another is that the three year gaps between volumes of The Last Chronicles makes it more important than in the earlier Chronicles to re-read each one before the next appears, if only to remind oneself of events in TROTE and FR which may not have seemed like much at the time but which are quite possibly going to acquire great significance in the last two volumes (such as Jeremiah's structures in Linden's home which I've posted about in another thread).
What do others think?
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I agree a re-read is necessary... if for no other reason then because the Chronicles are just that awesome
I also think that reading some of Donaldson's influences are important as well, I've got this new understanding of Covenant's actions in the first chronicles by studying William Blake!
Maybe it's time for a re-read of the Gradual Interview too...
I also think that reading some of Donaldson's influences are important as well, I've got this new understanding of Covenant's actions in the first chronicles by studying William Blake!
Maybe it's time for a re-read of the Gradual Interview too...
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Which is why I'll probably never finish the Wheel of Time...so much plot stuff, I have to re-read...but where the Chronicles are fun to read again, WoT just gets more tedious.
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the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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So when are you guys going to start your rereads for AATE? It's getting to be about that time. Will you reread the 1st and 2nd, too? Or just Runes and FR? I haven't reread the 1st and 2nd Chrons since 2005, but I'm saving that for the last book. What a reread that will be! To read the entire Chronicles of Thomas Covenant and end with the last new, unexplored book of this series. I can't wait.
But until then, it's Runes and FR for me this summer. I've begun Runes today. This will be my 3rd time. I'm really taking my time, chewing over every sentence, and just enjoying Donaldson's craft, his skill. I might post some thoughts in the old dissections as I go.
Anyone else?
But until then, it's Runes and FR for me this summer. I've begun Runes today. This will be my 3rd time. I'm really taking my time, chewing over every sentence, and just enjoying Donaldson's craft, his skill. I might post some thoughts in the old dissections as I go.
Anyone else?
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I've been contemplating a re-read, but I'm reluctant to start now and then finish FR with still weeks or maybe even months to wait for AATE.
That's a really good idea, I'll probably do the same.I haven't reread the 1st and 2nd Chrons since 2005, but I'm saving that for the last book. What a reread that will be! To read the entire Chronicles of Thomas Covenant and end with the last new, unexplored book of this series. I can't wait.
I've been thinking about it too, but not sure if I'll have the time... getting ready to move across the country and stuff... what I might do is just read some random parts starting in a few months, just to whet my appetite. Or maybe put Runes and FR on random play in my ipod.
I love the idea of a full re-read before the Last Dark!
I love the idea of a full re-read before the Last Dark!
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I already finished my re-read of RotE and FR before AATE. Yeah, I know, it *was* too soon. I'll forget everything by October, probably. Oh well.
A total Chrons re-read in 2013 sounds like a winner to me, as well. Maybe we should make it a KW project.
A total Chrons re-read in 2013 sounds like a winner to me, as well. Maybe we should make it a KW project.
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i just finished a read read of FR. I'm about to start all over from LFB.
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I just bought RoTE and FR on my Kindle last week and started my re-read. With my free time/reading speed, I should just about finish them both by the time AATE comes out
Wish the 1st/2nd chronicles were available on the Kindle. My copies are getting pretty dog-eared from all the re-reads over the years.
Wish the 1st/2nd chronicles were available on the Kindle. My copies are getting pretty dog-eared from all the re-reads over the years.
What joy, I must admit I was a bit daunted back on 11 Aug when I decided to re-read all 8 books. Thought it would take me ages but I've finished them now and enjoyed every minute.
Certainly its worth it in advance of AATE - I must admit reading chapter 1 of AATE on SRD website inspired me to refresh my memory of events thus far, and what a journey!
I'd also recommend Gilden Fire to all which gives some further insight into the Haruchai albeit that it can be read in under an hour. Cheap as chips on Amazon
Certainly its worth it in advance of AATE - I must admit reading chapter 1 of AATE on SRD website inspired me to refresh my memory of events thus far, and what a journey!
I'd also recommend Gilden Fire to all which gives some further insight into the Haruchai albeit that it can be read in under an hour. Cheap as chips on Amazon
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Is it time to start contemplating the Grand Re-read? 10 books will take me forever to get through. I read slow, and in little snippets of time each day. At this point, we have 16-18 months left? When is TLD coming out? Anyway, that's less than two months per book, which is pushing it for me.
Ki (my wife, for you newbies out there) will be reading the Chronicles for the very first time, so it's exciting on a personal level. She loved The Gap, so I'm eager to see what she thinks of this.
[I just noticed that I was thinking of this almost two years to the day in 2010. Something about the summer just makes me think of reading projects, I suppose.]
Ki (my wife, for you newbies out there) will be reading the Chronicles for the very first time, so it's exciting on a personal level. She loved The Gap, so I'm eager to see what she thinks of this.
[I just noticed that I was thinking of this almost two years to the day in 2010. Something about the summer just makes me think of reading projects, I suppose.]
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Heh...I read slow, but in big chunks of hours at a time normally, so I'll do either 1 or 2 weeks per book for re-read depending on what my free time looks like.Zarathustra wrote: I read slow, and in little snippets of time each day. At this point, we have 16-18 months left? When is TLD coming out? Anyway, that's less than two months per book, which is pushing it for me.
Now that should make things interesting. I can't get my wife to finish...she won't even finish LFB. We're kinda like Palestine and Israel when it comes to authors, though...it's more surprising when we agree than when we lay waste to the other's favorites. [though I used to pretend we had more lit. in common, at least in public...but at this point we're down to basically both liking Pratchett a lot and both hating Dickens a lot]Z wrote: Ki (my wife, for you newbies out there) will be reading the Chronicles for the very first time, so it's exciting on a personal level. She loved The Gap, so I'm eager to see what she thinks of this.
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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Would it have anything to do with your funny-bonectomy?Vraith wrote:[though I used to pretend we had more lit. in common, at least in public...but at this point we're down to basically both liking Pratchett a lot and both hating Dickens a lot]
[On topic] I haven't done a reread since I joined the Watch. Being involved in discussions about the Chrons has kept me in a sort of contact with the 1st and 2nd Chrons. Finishing FR and struggling through AATE has left me well enough set up for TLD. I might do a reread of ROTE as it's a good few years since I read it.
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