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Here is my review:

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Some folks seem a tad confused about the premise, but here it is. This teenage guy with a lot of idealism and a lot of imagination decides to try and become a superhero. No, he has no powers (well, he ends up with an advantage, but well within the realm of the possible). As you can see from the trailers, he dons a costume and starts helping people. This is captured on video, ending up on YouTube where he becomes a massive "thing". Along the way he stumbles onto a much more serious variation of the same trope--a father and daughter team (Big Daddy and Hit Girl) out to take down a major crime lord. They are hardcore, and take a liking to the other nascent superhero...
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Finally rented and watched KICK ASS and frankly I thought the film...kicked ass! I loved it.
I had to have it so I bought it on dvd yesterday.
Great premise. Great casting. Very enjoyable film.
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I liked it right up until the end which was just beyond the realm of normal human capabilities.
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Super fun movie. Loved it and own it!
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Can't wait 'til the sequel.
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SerScot wrote:I liked it right up until the end which was just beyond the realm of normal human capabilities.
Yeah, the ending was more than a bit far-fetched.
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Cail wrote:
SerScot wrote:I liked it right up until the end which was just beyond the realm of normal human capabilities.
Yeah, the ending was more than a bit far-fetched.
Though the ending reached above the rest of the unbelievable elements of the story I wasn't bothered by it at all. My suspension of disbelief was already in super duper high gear already.
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What I liked: the idealism of a "nobody" taking charge and trying to help his fellow man, rather than just reading about it. It wasn't to get a girl, like Scott Pilgram (though, like any teenage boy, that issue is always in play). It was to transcend being a merely a fan of comics/super heroes and becoming one himself. It's the same theme that I liked about Iron Giant, where one can choose his own fate to serve his fellow man, and define who he is aside from what society expects him to be.

However, this kid wasn't an intergalactic badass robot trying to be something other than a weapon who sacrifices himself in an existential defining moment (Irong Giant). He was <sigh> another geek/wimp who gets a girl out of his league for no apparent reason. What is it with this theme lately? Why is this being shoved down our throats in nearly every movie targeting this particular demographic?

Which brings us to what I hated.

What I hated: comic book fanboy wet dream. I just can't relate (see Scott Pilgram thread). Not only did we have the main character getting a girl that's way out of his league, but his chubby geeky buddy gets a girl out of his league, too. And his buddy gets the girl for no apparent reason. All he did was sit around a comic book store and watch the main character on Youtube. I had no idea that's all it took to woo hot girls nowadays. I should have gone to highschool in this century. :roll:

It's not that I have anything against geeky guys getting hot girls. It's just so obviously some grown-up geek's wet dream, who now has the power to rewrite his own youth ... either that or they are simply targeting guys who fantasize about this stuff and capitalizing on their wet dreams. Wet dreams which include thinking that 11 year old girls are hot. 8O

WFT?!?

Ask yourselves: why do we never see any movies with a hot jock who settles for an ugly geeky girl? This just doesn't happen in our entertainment media. The whole geek-gets-girl-out-of-his-league meme is itself incredibly sexist, because no one would settle for the movie I just described about the hot jock/ugly girl. It would be boring and pathetic. Ugly girls aren't heroes. But ugly guys are. Think about that for a moment. This geek-out-of-his-league meme is just another variation of the male chauvenist pig concept ... except extended to "beta" males, instead of alpha males. That's right girls, now you are no longer objectified by the hot jocks, you're objectified by geeky guys who dress up in spandex and pretend they are just as badass as the alpha males. You're still just a prize ... except that now in today's culture even geeks can have you as a trophy. Ah ... empowerment. Breathe it in. :twisted:
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From what I've heard, in the original comic the girl rejects him.
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the movie was some fun fluff. Hit Girl was awesome though.
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I agree. Fun fluff. I thought Nicholas Cage was awesome. I did like the relationship between him and his daughter.

Best part of movie - has to be where he asks his daughter what she wants for her birthday! :lol:
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It was fun. I agree. And the fight scenes with the girl were amazing. To contradict what I just posted about Nick Cage in the Scott Pilgrim thread, he wasn't too bad in this movie.

I've been trying to put my finger on just exactly what bugs me about this movie. I don't feel like I explained it well above. Falling asleep last night, I thought of a new way to describe it: the movie blurs the line between its own concept and itself. It feels like the writers had the same exact conversation that the kids have in the comic store, where the main character wonders why all these people who read about super heroes never try it themselves. It's like they were pitching the movie within the movie. It's as if the characters in the movie wrote the movie. The concept for the film--as a product of entertainment--is the same exact concept for the characters and the plot.

Why should that bug me? I don't know. I'm still trying to figure it out. Let's apply it to other movies. Imagine if Luke Skywalker's motivation was the same exact motivation that Lucas had in filming Star Wars. Instead of him yearning to become a man and explore his destiny as the son of a Jedi, he would be reduced to thinking it would be cool to live a life full of a bunch of lightsaber battles and spaceships--to live a life that displayed a new visual toolkit for cinema.

Obviously, that's a shitty movie. The characters can't want the same thing that the audience wants. They aren't watching the movie with us. They don't want entertainment, they want their destiny. But this movie didn't seem like that. They felt like they were on the same ride as we were.

Maybe it has to do with the Fourth Wall concept. This movie was too self-conscious in its references to Spider Man or its manipulation of cliches that are as familiar to us as they are to the characters. As such, it didn't seem to show as much as it simply nudged me in the arm like some over-enthusiastic director standing beside me going, "Eh? Eh? Did you see that? Kickass!"
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Post by drew »

I found it a bit violent!

I really liked the movie, but it was not what I expected at all.

The scene where Hit Girl brutaly kills all the low time drug dealers in the apartment surprized the hell out of me!

Then the same violence kept on going for the duratio.

Throughout most of the movie, I felt sorry for Hit Girl...but I also felt sorry for the actress, I guess its just the Dad in me, but I didn't like the idea of a young actress like that stabbing people through the heart, and all of the swearing that she did kind of bothered me too.

But i'd still see it again.

It was totally fun to watch.
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I wrote:He was <sigh> another geek/wimp who gets a girl out of his league for no apparent reason. What is it with this theme lately? Why is this being shoved down our throats in nearly every movie targeting this particular demographic?
Ha! I'm not imagining it! Others have noticed, too (like the writers of SNL).

Last night's monologue opening.

Pretty funny stuff. I laughed my ass off at the Michael Cera impersonation.
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Wasn't interested in this film. Walked into the living room last night as it was starting; sat down because I was tired; LAUGHED ASS OFF!

I really had a good time with this film.

BTW, saw a teenaged girl that made my blood boil at In and Out Burger- she was with a skinny, pimply, effeminate 70s hairstyle guy.

All in all, I see lots of hot women with geeky, skinny, weak chin, fat, short, bad skin, effeminate, non physical or whatever guys. Doesn't bother me a bit. I usually think "good for him."

Speaking of ugly women with handsome men in movies- What about Jerry Maguire? Zellweger is hideous and Cruise is handsome. Snooki is a grenade and she hooks up with attractive men from time to time.
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Harbinger wrote:All in all, I see lots of hot women with geeky, skinny, weak chin, fat, short, bad skin, effeminate, non physical or whatever guys. Doesn't bother me a bit. I usually think "good for him."
I was talking about the cultural meme, the portrayal of the Geek Ideal as a marketing tool ... not actually seeing real guys in real life scoring girls out of their league. While I don't usually think, "good for him" (instead I think: "she must be insecure"), I certainly don't get offended when seeing it in real life. But the portrayal of this unrealistic stereotype in geeky movies bugs me, because it's part of a calculated agenda. Just like the fat slob husband with the skinny hot wife in sit coms (or beer commercials, for that matter). It's marketing a fantasy to an audience that's particularly susceptible to that fantasy. What does that tell our young men? Message: you can be a fat slob (sit coms), a selfish jerk (Scott Pilgrim), a drunk (beer commercials), an ineffectual moper (Zombieland), a Youtube watching spectator of life (Kick Ass), and still be a hero who gets the hot babe. That's just not a message I want my boys taking to heart.
Harbinger wrote:Speaking of ugly women with handsome men in movies- What about Jerry Maguire? Zellweger is hideous and Cruise is handsome. Snooki is a grenade and she hooks up with attractive men from time to time.
Zellweger is a judgment call. Some guys think she looks fine. Sure, she's probably not up to Cruise's standards, but putting them together in this movie didn't feel like a marketing tool to trick ugly girls into watching it. Snooki is a slut, so no explanation required there (also, that's real-ish, not fiction.)
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Lol. Maybe it's the guys who are sluts too. I know a few handsome guys who will hit anything that will hold still. Wait, LT got married. Oh, never mind, it only slowed him down a little.

Guess Snooki is not a great example since it's not a love story. Got to give Cartman props- he screamed "get it off me!"
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