Foreshadowing the world go boom? :)

[blingdomepiece]

From the GI in 2004:

"As for the body-count: what can I tell you? Hope is meaningless if it can't exist in the face, in the very teeth, of death and despair. I don't think it's possible to tell the truth about evil without confronting murder, mayhem, and self-sacrifice. But I'm afraid I don't understand your question as it pertains to Caer-Caveral. I don't believe that there are any conditions under which life can exist without death. It follows, therefore, that between them Caer-Caveral and Elena have opened the door for the utter destruction of the Earth.

(11/03/2004)"

The question didn't even mention Elena... this seems like a pretty deliberate foreshadowing.

[shadowbinding shoe]

Is death such a simple concept?

Death has already lost much of its meaning when indestructible souls that continue to exist after the body dies entered the story.

Death is not the be all end all of Life. Change is. The possibility of development into something bigger, better or different. The struggle to remain the same. If the is dynamism and uncertainty in the world that's more than enough to inject meaning into Life.

In our own world there are many forms of Life. Do creatures that lack an aging mechanisms not alive? Or those that lack singlehood?

[thewormoftheworld'send]

From the GI in 2004:

"As for the body-count: what can I tell you? Hope is meaningless if it can't exist in the face, in the very teeth, of death and despair. I don't think it's possible to tell the truth about evil without confronting murder, mayhem, and self-sacrifice. But I'm afraid I don't understand your question as it pertains to Caer-Caveral. I don't believe that there are any conditions under which life can exist without death. It follows, therefore, that between them Caer-Caveral and Elena have opened the door for the utter destruction of the Earth.

(11/03/2004)"

The question didn't even mention Elena... this seems like a pretty deliberate foreshadowing.

I remember that GI comment. I don't see why Donaldson is blaming Caer-Caveral. Surely he is mistaken about him. Elena and Sunder are the Law breakers. Or maybe he's saying that Caer-Caveral allowed it. But the word "Sunder" is defined as "break apart."

Anyway, for a long time I've based many of my comments to this forum on that very GI response. I don't think his response necessitates wide-scale doom, or some kind of large earth-shattering ka-boom, but definitely something very near to it. I have held for some time that Donaldson is going to end the Chrons with something very big: a major battle, a fireworks show of every form of puissance (except the Elohim who will be thankfully devoured), maybe the Creator will be involved (making his way through a crack in the Arch). The earth may or may not be saved. Who knows? Sometimes its necessary to kill the patient in order to save him.

[Seppi2112]

Hrm.... Sunder couldn't have been the law breaker because Sunder had no power. The krill was involved in the law breaking but could not have broken the law itself (from the descriptions we have of it in FR anyway).

All Sunder did was plunge the knife, but it was Caer-Caveral's power that did the actual breaking of the law of death. CC broke the law of death by dying... all Sunder did was bring about CC's death.

[thewormoftheworld'send]

Hrm.... Sunder couldn't have been the law breaker because Sunder had no power. The krill was involved in the law breaking but could not have broken the law itself (from the descriptions we have of it in FR anyway).

All Sunder did was plunge the knife, but it was Caer-Caveral's power that did the actual breaking of the law of death. CC broke the law of death by dying... all Sunder did was bring about CC's death.

Hmmm, a classic self-sacrifice/resurrection story.

[DrPaul]

Let's not forget that it was Caer-Caveral who asked Sunder to strike him, after taking Hollian's corpse into his arms and with Hollian's spirit by his side to (silently) help persuade Sunder to strike. The breaking of the Law of Life was Caer-Caveral's initiative. Remember also that after Covenant had defeated Foul he told Linden that Caer-Caveral's breaking of the Law of Life was what made it possible for him to defeat Foul.

The name "Sunder" most probably refers to Sunder's frequent bereavements from his family and his sundering from the community of Mithil Stonedown.

[shadowbinding shoe]

If the First Causes are the important thing, we should acquit Elena as well since it was Covenant that was ultimately responsible for her actions on all sorts of levels as well as Lord Foul who pulled the strings and planned it all from the start.