TheFallen wrote:ninjaboy wrote:TheFallen wrote:
Yes, but as we're told towards the end of AATE, Mahrtiir and the Ramen are near on certain that it was the Lurker that killed Khelenbhranal - and their evidence being based upon the Ranyhyn being scared of only one thing in the whole Land - although circumstantial - is fairly convincing. Let's face it, if anyone's going to have an understanding of some racial memory surviving over the eons within the Ranyhyn, it's going to be the Ramen.
Just because they think it is the most likely reason doesn't make it true. But they aren't just afreaid of the lurker, I can tell you right know they were terrified of Covenant when he first appeared. Now how do you account for that? Did Covenant slay the big K as well?
Yes, both your points are fair.
Although Mahrtiir is himself convinced - and by inference, all the Ramen are equally certain - this doesn't make his belief that the Lurker slew K 100% cast-iron true. Mahrtiir opens his exposition of the Ramens' theory on K's demise by saying "We surmise...", so it's not definite by any means.
And yes, the Ranyhyn were indeed terrified of TC in the First Chrons - presumably because they had some mystical (horserite-gained?) knowledge of the potential within him to damn the Land and the dangers of the power within him? On the other hand, they mastered their fear enough to offer themselves to his service... something they've not at all achieved re Horrim Carabal. I think there's something more visceral and as I said earlier "racial memory driven" in their panicked reaction towards the Lurker's presence.
Yes, it's true that we can't be 100% sure that the Lurker killed K, but there aren't an abundance of other explanation's for the Ranyhyn's fear of the Lurker either.
I am honestly not sure what the significance of the Ranyhyn being terrified of TC is.. He did have (and does have) the potential to destroy the world of the Land, and I think it isn't beyond the realms of likelihood that that was apparent to the Ranyhyn.
But then look to Linden. She has awoken the Worm of the World's End, thus imperilling the very Arc of Time and the very existence of the world (which is what TC was at wisk of doing, and what the Render wanted him to do).. Yet the Ranyhyn acknowledged that Linden was capable of the same thing, and indeed now she has achieved all this ruin. But the Ranyhyn never seem to have been terrified of her....
The only thing I can think of to explain this (if there is anything to it, it might just have been something to make the First Chrons more interesting) is that as the Ranyhyn are 'adept at time' they may well have forseen all this, and the reason they were terrified of him all those thousands of years ago may be related to what he is becoming now, in the Last Chronichles..
But at any rate we were discussing the Lurker. I acknowledge this concept of 'racial memory' which you speak of, Fallen, but I believe that through sharing the Horserite the younger Rahnyhn 'experience' the history of thir race, so whatever has hapenned to the Great Horses is remembered, not so much as a 'racial' memory but actually as a conscious memory, similar to the way each haruchai remembers events thousands of years ago due to the way the mentally share such events.
... Unless that's actually what you neant by 'racial memory'.
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