What does Linden know about Elena?
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jonnyredleader
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What does Linden know about Elena?
im halfway through the 2nd chrons again and im trying to find the moment where covenant tells Linden about his relationship with Elena, when she confronts elena in andelain she accuses her of still being arrogant that she still thinks she loves him. does she know what happened between covenant and elena and if so when is that revealed?
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Linna Heartbooger
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One more reason I should do a re-read myself sometime soonish maybe. I'd love to tackle this question properly. 
Here's my tongue-in-cheek response:
Psshhh, it's called "being a woman." We are actually privy to a whole lot of secrets, whether anyone has told us or not.
No surprise if Linden, who's in love with Covenant, would be able to be aware of Elena's attraction to him. (whether Elena is aware of it or not)
Seriously, women have radars for that kind of thing!
(mostly just writing this to see what responses I get - bwahahaha!)
Here's my tongue-in-cheek response:
Psshhh, it's called "being a woman." We are actually privy to a whole lot of secrets, whether anyone has told us or not.
No surprise if Linden, who's in love with Covenant, would be able to be aware of Elena's attraction to him. (whether Elena is aware of it or not)
Seriously, women have radars for that kind of thing!
(mostly just writing this to see what responses I get - bwahahaha!)
"People without hope not only don't write novels, but what is more to the point, they don't read them.
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
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jonnyredleader
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Haha the old radar!! I think there is something important going on here or I'm reading too much into it, covenant at one point thinks that the party in the Wounded land is a reincarnation of his dead, brinn=bannor, Elena reborn in Linden. Lindens accusation of Elenas feelings was too accurate and insightful if ultimately misguided and in further books that connection and identification with herself grows, if covenant doesnt tell her the details of their affair what does that mean?
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Linna Heartbooger
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In-teresting.
Yeah, I definitely think that when one person has been -in the same position- as someone else, they sometimes have amazing (and often rather unfair!) insights into that other's soul.
(in Linden's and Elena's cases, in love with this powerful hero - in spite of some of the faults he's committed against them)
The tricky and dangerous thing about those insights (at least when the person is -not- the same one) is that occasionally, they are wrong.
(And even when they're right, we resent having such things exposed by someone else.)
Yeah, I definitely think that when one person has been -in the same position- as someone else, they sometimes have amazing (and often rather unfair!) insights into that other's soul.
(in Linden's and Elena's cases, in love with this powerful hero - in spite of some of the faults he's committed against them)
The tricky and dangerous thing about those insights (at least when the person is -not- the same one) is that occasionally, they are wrong.
(And even when they're right, we resent having such things exposed by someone else.)
"People without hope not only don't write novels, but what is more to the point, they don't read them.
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
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jonnyredleader
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Could be..there is definatley an affinity there. Horserite and lawbreaker, lots of parallels and shared straits. I just can't find why Linden specifically picked out that phrase "are you so arrogant that you still think you love him" if covenant never mentions what went on between Elena and himself, he states several times in both chrons that he loved her I just can't see when he shared that with Linden. If he didn't is the Linden/Elena thing more than it seems?...
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Orlion
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Well, if Covenant never told Linden, Linden had invaded/possessed Covenant's mind to break him out of the Elohim stasis. As she was looking around for the door, she may have 'accidentally' nosed about and uncovered some memories.
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Linna Heartbooger
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Ahh yeah. True, that could cover it, with no further explanation needed!
"People without hope not only don't write novels, but what is more to the point, they don't read them.
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
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Vraith
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I have this impression that TC told Linden all about it...just this memory of her being horrified.
[spoiler]Sig-man, Libtard, Stupid piece of shit. change your text color to brown. Mr. Reliable, bullshit-slinging liarFucker-user.[/spoiler]
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.