Is the Voice of the Masters...
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- <i>Elohim</i>
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Is the Voice of the Masters...
.... controlled by croyel?
In Runes, he has a "tic" on his left eye and repels Stave w/o touching him.
In Revenant, Jeremiah has a left eye "tic" and repels Linden w/o touching her.
The Master also seems to have attained a higher status than Firstmark in previous novels.
Just wondering.
{corrected name to croyel}
In Runes, he has a "tic" on his left eye and repels Stave w/o touching him.
In Revenant, Jeremiah has a left eye "tic" and repels Linden w/o touching her.
The Master also seems to have attained a higher status than Firstmark in previous novels.
Just wondering.
{corrected name to croyel}
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Health sense [which is not blocked for the Har., as said above] is a problem, but isn't the biggest problem. Mind-speech is. No way is the voice possessed/controlled by a croyel without all of the Har. knowing about it.
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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Jeremiah was controlled by a croyel without the Haruchai knowing about it ...
Whatever kind of glamour disguised Roger and Jeremiah seems to work against even the Haruchai. Only the Insequent seemed to be able to penetrate it. And even then, it's unclear if they saw through it or merely knew about it.
That being said, there would have to be some compelling reason why a croyel-ridden Haruchai master and the Mahdoubt could live in the same Revelstone for so many years. It's plausible. But it requires the presence of some factor as yet unknown that would explain it.
So I say, good catch, Prover of Life.
Whatever kind of glamour disguised Roger and Jeremiah seems to work against even the Haruchai. Only the Insequent seemed to be able to penetrate it. And even then, it's unclear if they saw through it or merely knew about it.
That being said, there would have to be some compelling reason why a croyel-ridden Haruchai master and the Mahdoubt could live in the same Revelstone for so many years. It's plausible. But it requires the presence of some factor as yet unknown that would explain it.
So I say, good catch, Prover of Life.
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Jerry isn't mind-linked with the Har. We know that castings of illusions can fool Har senses, [especially Elo-cast ones]...but the Voice and all Har. share thoughts...it seems unlikely to me that a croyel could control and hide given that. And, to me, it violates the entire essence of what the Har. mean [on the whole, as a theme/presence in the whole story.]wayfriend wrote:Jeremiah was controlled by a croyel without the Haruchai knowing about it ...
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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WF, I would not say "learn" so much as acquire the ability via rending and consuming the Raver. Whether there is a difference or this is just semantics, I am not sure.
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thanks for all the comments.
I've just gotten to FR in a "mining mode" of the LC. Not really sure if it's just a co-incidence or red herring.
The Insequent generally do not interfere with events - if I remember correctly. After all, the Mahdoubt was possibly waiting for Linden to arrive, having "seen her" through Time travel. In such a case, any peculiarities with croyel manipulation would be overlooked.
As far as mind speech - Brinn & company were also unable to breach the glamour upon Kasreyn either.
It just now seems to me a possible explanation for the overly arrogant/powerful Voice of the Masters.
Time will tell - it always does.
I've just gotten to FR in a "mining mode" of the LC. Not really sure if it's just a co-incidence or red herring.
The Insequent generally do not interfere with events - if I remember correctly. After all, the Mahdoubt was possibly waiting for Linden to arrive, having "seen her" through Time travel. In such a case, any peculiarities with croyel manipulation would be overlooked.
As far as mind speech - Brinn & company were also unable to breach the glamour upon Kasreyn either.
It just now seems to me a possible explanation for the overly arrogant/powerful Voice of the Masters.
Time will tell - it always does.
Old man how is it that you hear these things?
Young man how is it that you do not?
Master Po
Young man how is it that you do not?
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We can be sure that any croyel who controlled a Master would be able to access all his powers, including mind speech.
So can we be sure that an illusory image that includes all the normal senses could not also include the Haruchai senses as well? Might not it be able to communicate mind to mind in a way that the other Masters could not detect the illusion?
So can we be sure that an illusory image that includes all the normal senses could not also include the Haruchai senses as well? Might not it be able to communicate mind to mind in a way that the other Masters could not detect the illusion?
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I am not convinced..
It is definately an interesting idea, but I don't see it being a realistic option.
The Haruchai would knowingly have to enter into an agreement with the Croyel, and would not be able to be surprised or taken over by one..
Furthermore any Haruchai would see the Croyel as an enemy to the land..
It is definately an interesting idea, but I don't see it being a realistic option.
The Haruchai would knowingly have to enter into an agreement with the Croyel, and would not be able to be surprised or taken over by one..
Furthermore any Haruchai would see the Croyel as an enemy to the land..
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