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The Avengers
Awesome......... more later!
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Re: The Avengers
Good to hear that Joss didn't ruin this one.finn wrote:Awesome......... more later!
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Since I haven't seen the film my opinions are just that...opinions. However based on having watched and enjoyed all the related Marvel setup films and reading through the 30+ reviews that have been posted so far I am very confident that The Avengers will be as good if not better than advertised.
Can't wait.
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Even people who don't normally like superhero movies should probably watch this one because it will be a cultural event. Although not the first "super team" movie--we have already had Fantastic Four, X-Men, and even Mystery Men back in 1998 (or was it 1999?)--none of them were like this one will be.
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I have to catch up on some of the set-up films [haven't seen thor, for instance]...but I have to say the ads have convinced me it will at least look cool and be action packed...and I love the trailer lines [I hope they aren't too far out of context] from Downey...roughly "what are you without that metal suit" "A billionaire, genius, playboy."
And "We have an army!" "We have a Hulk!"
And "We have an army!" "We have a Hulk!"
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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I hear movie producers like to have a trial showing with an audience that's clearly highly intelligent, witty and discerning, so of course they try it out in Australia! 
The movie is a real blockbuster and reminds me of the type of blockbusters of yesteryear with a big, big cast. The cast is very appreciable in Avengers, but the real cast is the heroes themselves so rather than the big movies having the likes of Yul Brynner and Steve McQueen and Charles Bronson, who all pretty much played themselves in a lot of their movies, we have these larger than life characters, all household names, as the stars. The fact that we have already 'met' these characters and they've been established in their own movies, helps to eliminate too much pre story, tho' there's a bit of room for a fill-in for Hawkeye and Ms. Romanov.
The interaction between them is well crafted, with all the expected prejudices of each hero's background competing, but as the movie grows so does the uniting rather than the dividing factors of the team. Vraith you'll be pleased to know there are a good few more 'lines' you'll enjoy as there's a good spattering of humour as well as few conceivably poignant moments.
The effects are very well done and the recent complaint I made about the amazing Transformers/Battleship technology not being used well is met here along with excellent use of the 3D effects. The sound is big and really needs to be seen (of course I mean heard) in the theatre in 7.1. The movie is pretty long but no complaints there as it rolls through the story and keeps pace and momentum throughout.
No oscar winners, but everyone puts in a creditable performance to the extent that you are really identifying with the characters, not the actors; as it should be really.
The end scene hints at greater things to come.
I can't say more without spoilers, not that there are any major plot twists, but I was wondering about Thor's Hammer which to date has always returned, however there was some hint that it was not behaving on cue and it did not appear to be accidental as it would have been easy to trim those small hints. I seem to remember that he had to retrieve the hammer in a short time or revert to Donald Blake, tho' that would not run in this plotline of Thor....but curious nonetheless...
Definitely worth getting to see and go 3D.
The movie is a real blockbuster and reminds me of the type of blockbusters of yesteryear with a big, big cast. The cast is very appreciable in Avengers, but the real cast is the heroes themselves so rather than the big movies having the likes of Yul Brynner and Steve McQueen and Charles Bronson, who all pretty much played themselves in a lot of their movies, we have these larger than life characters, all household names, as the stars. The fact that we have already 'met' these characters and they've been established in their own movies, helps to eliminate too much pre story, tho' there's a bit of room for a fill-in for Hawkeye and Ms. Romanov.
The interaction between them is well crafted, with all the expected prejudices of each hero's background competing, but as the movie grows so does the uniting rather than the dividing factors of the team. Vraith you'll be pleased to know there are a good few more 'lines' you'll enjoy as there's a good spattering of humour as well as few conceivably poignant moments.
The effects are very well done and the recent complaint I made about the amazing Transformers/Battleship technology not being used well is met here along with excellent use of the 3D effects. The sound is big and really needs to be seen (of course I mean heard) in the theatre in 7.1. The movie is pretty long but no complaints there as it rolls through the story and keeps pace and momentum throughout.
No oscar winners, but everyone puts in a creditable performance to the extent that you are really identifying with the characters, not the actors; as it should be really.
The end scene hints at greater things to come.
I can't say more without spoilers, not that there are any major plot twists, but I was wondering about Thor's Hammer which to date has always returned, however there was some hint that it was not behaving on cue and it did not appear to be accidental as it would have been easy to trim those small hints. I seem to remember that he had to retrieve the hammer in a short time or revert to Donald Blake, tho' that would not run in this plotline of Thor....but curious nonetheless...
Definitely worth getting to see and go 3D.
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"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
"The opposite of pro-life isn't pro-death. Y'know?"
"What if the Hokey Cokey really is what its all about?"
"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
"The opposite of pro-life isn't pro-death. Y'know?"
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"Winston, if you were my husband I'd give you poison" ................ "Madam, if you were my wife I would drink it!"
"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
"The opposite of pro-life isn't pro-death. Y'know?"
"What if the Hokey Cokey really is what its all about?"
"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
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"What if the Hokey Cokey really is what its all about?"
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The infamous Neill Cumpston has posted an entertaining review.
So let me just save you some time and say this movie will break your hand with its cock and balls by running at your hand which you’ve made into a fist, thinking, “I’m gonna punch this movie in its cock and balls ‘cause no fucking way can it be good” but then before you do anything the movie runs at you and breaks your hand with its cock and balls because its cock and balls are like a chunk of highway. They can use this part of the review on the poster. [link]
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You don't have to but it can't hurt and it will fill in some backstory with Loki (who also caused the Avengers to form in the comics) and the Tesseract (formerly knows as Cosmic Cube).
Odin clearly states that anyone worthy of Mjolnir is able to wield it, so it could be responding to someone else worthy enough.
Cosmic Cubes were also nascent sentient beings. I wonder if that will play any part in the movie? Long before all the Infinity Gauntlet and its ridiculous spin-offs/sequels, didn't the Cosmic Cube turn up in the hands of A.I.M and, later, Thanos? I think Owen Reece, the Molecule Man, was eventually revealed to be a living Cosmic Cube with a few personally-imposed limitations...but now I am bleeding over into the comics forum.
Odin clearly states that anyone worthy of Mjolnir is able to wield it, so it could be responding to someone else worthy enough.
Cosmic Cubes were also nascent sentient beings. I wonder if that will play any part in the movie? Long before all the Infinity Gauntlet and its ridiculous spin-offs/sequels, didn't the Cosmic Cube turn up in the hands of A.I.M and, later, Thanos? I think Owen Reece, the Molecule Man, was eventually revealed to be a living Cosmic Cube with a few personally-imposed limitations...but now I am bleeding over into the comics forum.
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I agree with HL however a question comes to mind.Murrin wrote:Do I need to see Thor and Captain America before I watch this one?
If you are interested in seeing The Avengers why wouldn't you have been interested in seeing Thor and Captain America respectively?
I realize that The Avengers is a sort of "event" film but the content and characters are all Marvel Comics fans heavy hitters so to speak.
Just curious.
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Not a comics fan, really. t's more of the opposite of an automatic selling point when they bring out a film about some character that only the comic readers actually think is a big name.
Thor just didn't interest me at all. Thought about Captain America but didn't get around to it. I don't really go to the cinema at all usually, and those two haven't been on TV yet.
Some of the comics stuff interests me, some doesn't. Depends how good it looks from previews. I never bothered seeing Hulk because it didn't look like it would be good, but The Incredible Hulk looked like it had potential (and I wasn't disappointed), for example. I had no interest at all in Superman Returns, but I wanted to watch the Batman films from the start.
And The Avengers has Downey Jr's Iron Man (I enjoyed the previous films), and Joss Whedon as writer/director, so it interests me more than Thor and Captain America did.
Thor just didn't interest me at all. Thought about Captain America but didn't get around to it. I don't really go to the cinema at all usually, and those two haven't been on TV yet.
Some of the comics stuff interests me, some doesn't. Depends how good it looks from previews. I never bothered seeing Hulk because it didn't look like it would be good, but The Incredible Hulk looked like it had potential (and I wasn't disappointed), for example. I had no interest at all in Superman Returns, but I wanted to watch the Batman films from the start.
And The Avengers has Downey Jr's Iron Man (I enjoyed the previous films), and Joss Whedon as writer/director, so it interests me more than Thor and Captain America did.
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you are correct. though as usual with comics, there is more to the story.Hashi Lebwohl wrote:You don't have to but it can't hurt and it will fill in some backstory with Loki (who also caused the Avengers to form in the comics) and the Tesseract (formerly knows as Cosmic Cube).
Odin clearly states that anyone worthy of Mjolnir is able to wield it, so it could be responding to someone else worthy enough.
Cosmic Cubes were also nascent sentient beings. I wonder if that will play any part in the movie? Long before all the Infinity Gauntlet and its ridiculous spin-offs/sequels, didn't the Cosmic Cube turn up in the hands of A.I.M and, later, Thanos? I think Owen Reece, the Molecule Man, was eventually revealed to be a living Cosmic Cube with a few personally-imposed limitations...but now I am bleeding over into the comics forum.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Cube
and if the reveal (after the credits) i heard mentioned is correct, it makes sense.
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spoilers here
The spoilers are by people who have already seen the movie, released overseas before its debut here in the States.
spoilers here
The spoilers are by people who have already seen the movie, released overseas before its debut here in the States.
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Just saw the movie, and ahgiparh, a;dgsnaf! mvgaf;! nvas!
Yeah, what wayfriend quoted pretty much sums it up.
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