Turgid and gratuitous verbiage: SRD's use of language.

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What is your favorite BIG word in the Chronicles

telid - hey, that ain't big!
1
2%
exigency - he uses it a LOT
5
12%
demesne - "domain" too easy for ya, big fella?
3
7%
ambergrised - say what now?
8
19%
multitudinous - hey, I KNOW that one!
0
No votes
multitudinous - hey, I KNOW that one!
0
No votes
anile - little words, big meanings
3
7%
hebetude - only in the Chronicles
4
10%
(in)condign - Caerroil Wildwood uses it, you can't skip it
8
19%
roynish - Yes - I've added roynish!
10
24%
 
Total votes: 42

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How about a 'gibbous moon' - did anyone mention that yet? WTF is a gibbous moon (yeah - I know *what* a gibbous moon is but WTF talks like that now [he said while ATST congratulating SRD for having the balls to do so (in print form at least)]).

(case of Croyel Parenthases going on above - hope they all 'stack up'.)
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peter wrote:How about a 'gibbous moon' - did anyone mention that yet? WTF is a gibbous moon (yeah - I know *what* a gibbous moon is but WTF talks like that now [he said while ATST congratulating SRD for having the balls to do so (in print form at least)]).

(case of Croyel Parenthases going on above - hope they all 'stack up'.)
*sniff* I use the term gibbous moon...
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Humble apologies friend Orlion. I didn't re-read the whole thread when it appeard in my in-box again and thus missed your gibbous related reference.

(Can I ask - is the Beast of your quote the [searching for the correct adjective here] inimitable Aleister Crowley) or some other Beast of your aquaintence.)
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!

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Orlion wrote:
peter wrote:How about a 'gibbous moon' - did anyone mention that yet? WTF is a gibbous moon (yeah - I know *what* a gibbous moon is but WTF talks like that now [he said while ATST congratulating SRD for having the balls to do so (in print form at least)]).

(case of Croyel Parenthases going on above - hope they all 'stack up'.)
*sniff* I use the term gibbous moon...
So does Terry Pratchett! 8) One of the more amusing quotes from the Tiffany books involved it; don't have it at hand but it went something along the lines of "The moon gibbous'ed through the half-moon in the outhouse door." Also picked up 'geas' and 'susurrus' from him long before even hearing about Donaldson.
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Haven't checked it out but I'm sure SRD was 'gibbousing' about long before Pratchett.

(Great art work btw Zorm - not replicating my mental pictures of the First, Linden etc, but fine work and just as valid an image for them as any of the ones in *my* head!)
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!

"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)

....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
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'Then let it end.'

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Heh, well, I didn't know about the existence of SRD before the end of 2008, so, to me, Pratchett's been gibbousing longer. ;) I learned a lot of 'obscure' expressions from him, like 'geas', which again popped up in AATE.

Thanks; I think everyone has an unique vision of the characters in their imagination. I've mentioned it a few times that mine are heavily influenced by local myths (and some artists...keep telling myself I should occasionally stop drawing Gallen-Kallela beards); had I grown up elsewhere, they might appear entirely different. :)
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Out of those, and to choose one, I particullarly like "anile" - the "little words, big meanings" explanation makes it even better. Though abeit I've chosen one, I'd rather choose all, at least for my personal vocabulary.
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W.B. wrote:I think it's a different version of a word that is in the dictionary. When deploying his verbiage (great subject line, BTW :D), Donsldson often seems add or remove prefixes and/or suffexes to create an unusual or uncommon version of a more familiar word. So demnify is the prefix-less version of indemnify, which is "to save harmless; to secure against loss or damage; to insure" (Webster's unabridged). So to demnify would be to make something dangerous or unsafe. I guess it died out in common usage and fell out of dictionaries while its sibling, indemnify/indemnity, survived.
I wonder if SRD is a George Carlin fan. Long ago he used this trick that you reference in a skit about words, specifically with nonchalant. If someone can be nonchalant, doesn't the concept of chalance exist? If I remember it right Carlin asked pretty much that exact question.

So, if something can be non sequitur, doesn't the concept of sequitur exist? Is this question sequitur? or non sequitur?

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Anyway, if I were to vote off the list, incondign gets my vote. If I were picking any word in the Chrons, it has to be Unhermeneuticable. Uxorious is high on the list too.

As for unambergrised, the DAMD site www.gdiproductions.net/srdamd/ has this from the man himself:
to quote Stephen R. Donaldson himself describing his use of the word: "But 'unambergrised'. A great word, which (if memory serves) I stole from Gerard Manley Hopkins. Think of it like this. Long ago, ambergris (noun) was sometimes used to prepare bodies for funerals; more literally, to counteract the stink of an unburied body until an appropriate funeral (a show of respect and love) could be arranged. Inventing a verb from the noun, 'to ambergris' denotes 'to prepare a body for a funeral.' By implication, therefore, the verb connotes treating something deceased or lost with love and respect. From there, it isn't hard to invent an adjective from the verb: e.g. 'Men wept over her ambergrised corpse.' And from *there*, it's a small step to the adjective 'unambergrised,' which means--drumroll, please--the opposite of 'ambergrised'. Which in turn brings us, through a series of connotations, to the unintended accuracy of asking, 'What the hell does "unambergrised" mean?'--'hell' having suddenly become appropriate to the discussion (via 'treating something deceased or lost with contempt and/or disregard'). (I hear carping in the background, but I choose to ignore it. )"
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The Eighth Ward wrote: Long ago he used this trick that you reference in a skit about words, specifically with nonchalant. If someone can be nonchalant, doesn't the concept of chalance exist?
Heh, he did that a lot...one of my favorites "flammable, inflammable, non-inflamable.....for christ's sake, it either FLAMS or it DOESN'T!" or somesuch.

desuetude might deserve a special mention here, cuz IIRC it's the first "damn, I might need some help with this" word to appear...on like page 3 of LFB or something. Really early on, anyway.
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