The Heavy Stuff

[Frostheart Grueburn]

I'll leave you guys with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yHsmZy-YS8
(The Viking raid begins around 15:00.)

That looks good. I will check it out in depth after the headphone-eating gremlin under my desk falls asleep.

Did you like it?

My intrawebs time is about to end anew, so here's some entries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKkdR5RBK24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZJKyRISchU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ZDKkRyW94

Aaaand another Finnish curiosity...a musical epic about Scrooge McDuck. It's been dumped under metal as Tuomas Holopainen (from Nightwish) composed the piece. It's not for kids either, but the 20-30-some fans of Don Rosa who grew up with his stories. (For some reason Italian comics in the videos...)

[michaelm]

I have always liked death metal, speed metal, black metal, thrash, hardcore punk, etc.

A few days ago I listened to Black Metal by Venom in the car on the way to work.

However, it's not the only thing that I listen to at all. In my car right now are a collection of Barry Gray TV show theme tunes, Hyaena by Siouxsie and the Banshees, and Sounds of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel.

[Cambo]

Thanks for your contributions, Softy! I like Wintersun especially, really got that epic feel.

I have always liked death metal, speed metal, black metal, thrash, hardcore punk, etc.

Bands, songs, links please! Someone else actually posting extreme metal would be awesome, otherwise I feel like I'm screaming Satanic rites into the dark

However, it's not the only thing that I listen to at all. In my car right now are a collection of Barry Gray TV show theme tunes, Hyaena by Siouxsie and the Banshees, and Sounds of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel.

Oh no, I could never limit myself exclusively to metal like some do. So...well, limiting! I listen wide and eclectic, also having passions for hip hop, progressive rock, post rock, grunge, and blues.

[Wildling]

For any who are interested (or morbidly curious) I found operadiabolicus.com/ a while ago and have been sort of ... I dunno ... fascinated ever since. I'm not enough of an expert to be able to tell what label it fits under (death metal, black metal, etc) or even if it's actually any good or not. But I do have this weird attraction to it ...

[Vraith]

Oh no, I could never limit myself exclusively to metal like some do. So...well, limiting!

Y'know...in my experience [and if this were the 'tank, I'd have to justify it being "my experience"...but that wouldn't be a problem in this case, cuz my experience is fucking VAST] I'd say what you say there is rooted in a myth.

I'd say those between roughly 15 and 19 who love it loud tend towards limited...THEN.
But they usually grow into the people who, when they say they listen to "all kinds of kinds of music" are the only ones close to telling the truth. [and they aren't the ones who think cuz they mostly like country, but they LOVE Nickelback's "Rock Star" or whatever and "figure you out" or whatever makes them hard rock fans, and not just fans of stupid shit]

[Vraith]

For any who are interested (or morbidly curious) I found operadiabolicus.com/ a while ago and have been sort of ... I dunno ... fascinated ever since. I'm not enough of an expert to be able to tell what label it fits under (death metal, black metal, etc) or even if it's actually any good or not. But I do have this weird attraction to it ...

Sorry for double post!!!!
No, I'm not.
Cuz different topic.

I stopped caring about the exact labeling in April of 1989. There's a reason I remember the time kinda close...it's kinda funny, but really long and off-topic.

Wasn't it you, though, who was OK with my choice of Queensryche's "livecrime" as a perfect album?
Whether it was or wasn't...you gotta listen to your link with Q in mind.
Ignore the style and quality of singers....you gotta see the similarities.

[Sorus]

Did you like it?

Yeah, really good.

[Wildling]

For any who are interested (or morbidly curious) I found operadiabolicus.com/ a while ago and have been sort of ... I dunno ... fascinated ever since. I'm not enough of an expert to be able to tell what label it fits under (death metal, black metal, etc) or even if it's actually any good or not. But I do have this weird attraction to it ...

Sorry for double post!!!!
No, I'm not.
Cuz different topic.

I stopped caring about the exact labeling in April of 1989. There's a reason I remember the time kinda close...it's kinda funny, but really long and off-topic.

Wasn't it you, though, who was OK with my choice of Queensryche's "livecrime" as a perfect album?
Whether it was or wasn't...you gotta listen to your link with Q in mind.
Ignore the style and quality of singers....you gotta see the similarities.

I know, and I think that's a large part of the fascination for me.

As far as labeling goes, I couldn't really care less what genre or style people think some piece of music belongs in. To me it's all one big continuum of sound. I'm kind of an amateur music historian, so I tend to think of a band as the musical influences they show.

[Cambo]

Oh no, I could never limit myself exclusively to metal like some do. So...well, limiting!

Y'know...in my experience [and if this were the 'tank, I'd have to justify it being "my experience"...but that wouldn't be a problem in this case, cuz my experience is fucking VAST] I'd say what you say there is rooted in a myth.

I'd say those between roughly 15 and 19 who love it loud tend towards limited...THEN.
But they usually grow into the people who, when they say they listen to "all kinds of kinds of music" are the only ones close to telling the truth. [and they aren't the ones who think cuz they mostly like country, but they LOVE Nickelback's "Rock Star" or whatever and "figure you out" or whatever makes them hard rock fans, and not just fans of stupid shit]

There is something adolescent about the genre loyalty thing. I dunno, I'm a recent metal convert and my experience of the fanbase in person is limited, only a few friends really.


You know who I like? People who, when you ask them what kind of music they listen to, react as if you just asked "what's the meaning of life?"

[Vader]

Became a fan of heavy music in 77 (I was seven) when I got hooked on KISS.

Grew up with metal in the 80s. Slayer, Venom and early Metallica (until Master of Puppets).

Listened to some Death Metal in the early 90s, but actually already was more into New York Hardcore (Agnostic Front, Carnivore, Sheer Terror) at that time.

My all time favorite heavy bands are:
Type O Negative - my number 1. "Slow, Deep & Hard" is THE album.

Neurosis - the "Souls at Zero" and "Enemies of the Sun" era.

Sheer Terror . Love Songs For the Unloved. Productions sucks soundwise but great stuff

Ministry - especially "Filth Pig" (The Fall is sublime), "Psalm 69", "Houses of the Molé" and "Rio Grande Blood"

Apart from that I like some "crust core" like "Ausrotten" or such.

[michaelm]

I think I first started to love heavy music when one of my aunts (who is 14 years older than me) accidentally played the flip side to Hey Jude at my grandparents' house - the flip side is Revolution, with that great distorted intro and scream from John Lennon.

After that I really started to love hearing anything with distorted guitars. I remember things like Spirit in the Sky, Black Night, Paranoid - anything that I might hear on the radio that was heavier.

The first record I ever bought was Blockbuster by The Sweet (loved pretty much everything they did!), and for quite a few years went through various heavy genres of music - the hard rock of the early 70s, punk in the late 70s, the new wave of British heavy metal in the early 80s, the dominance of thrash in the mid 80s. I think the thing that really made me stop listening for a while was the god-awful hair metal of the late 80s, but I like grunge, the second wave of black metal, and so on.

[Vraith]

People who, when you ask them what kind of music they listen to, react as if you just asked "what's the meaning of life?"

Hee...nice observation.
Though, I have to say that there was an extended period where asking me what I listened to really WAS equivalent to asking about the meaning of life.
Pretty much every free moment...if I wasn't listening to it, I was singing it, if not singing, trying to write it, if not writing, talking about it...hell, summers I'd bike pretty much all day pretty much every day, and measure speed/distance by albums sung through. As in "Damn, I didn't think it would take a whole Dark Side to get here." Or...last time it took me till "Firehouse," this time got here by "Hotter than Hell."
Or, "Fuck...we gotta save "The Temples of Syrinx till we're going DOWNhill."

But back on topic, I'm working through some of the stuff linked here.
The Caladan Brood thing you linked...the first thought I had is how much the intro sounded like the Five Finger Death Punch tune that has "It's almost like your heaven's trying everything to bring me down" chorus. Even the voice is similar. It changes a bit after the intro...but still...and it goes back to similar later on.

Folk might find it interesting to look at Herbert/Dune and this stuff, too. [Caladan, for instance, to start...tons of inbreeding in this branch of genre]
and bunches of other stuff.
Even down to Spinal Tap and "Stonehenge"...

[dANdeLION]

I don't really like anything heavier than Iron Maiden, but one of me friends growing up is Sean McNenney of Nocturnus, and I was in a band with Nathan Boone of Teer.

[Cambo]

This album by Kiwi band Ulcerate is what I've been playing repeat for the past week or so. Warning: this song could well be beyond a lot of people's tolerance for heavy, but for me it's a good example of the kinds of atmosphere, riffs and songwriting you only really encounter in extreme metal.

Ulcerate- Confronting Entropy

[Frostheart Grueburn]

otherwise I feel like I'm screaming Satanic rites into the dark

Let your ears devour this in their urgent need for...er...devilish crepuscularity!
youtu.be/_jw7yk8hm_0

For any who are interested (or morbidly curious) I found operadiabolicus.com/ a while ago and have been sort of ... I dunno ... fascinated ever since. I'm not enough of an expert to be able to tell what label it fits under (death metal, black metal, etc) or even if it's actually any good or not. But I do have this weird attraction to it ...

Very good, complex enough that it requires a few re-listens to sink in.

[Cambo]

Frostheart: are we playing the 2creepy music video game? My turn then

EDITED TO ADD: In case I didn't make it clear: disturbing content warning guys.

Behemoth- Blow Your Trumpets Gabriel

[Frostheart Grueburn]

YES! You shall never recover from this disturbing display!
youtu.be/XOibIxl3dLo

Female-fronted pagan metal:
youtu.be/svivlSNOGLw

(Apparently after bad ol' Dimmu I'm no more Softy )

[Cambo]

that Black Satans video! Reminds me of this old classic, before my time:

Immortal- Call of the Wintermoon

I'm picky when it comes to symphonic stuff, as it's not usually my thing. Dimmu and that other band you posted were ok, but in my mind the true (or trve ) symphonic black metal classic is Emperor's In The Nightside Eclipse.

Emperor- I Am the Black Wizards

As for female fronted bands, here's an all-female black/sludge band, playing it as nasty and guttural as you could wish for

Mortals- View From a Tower

[[Syl]]

Hoping to see Mastodon in Raleigh next weekend at the Hopscotch festival.

John Garcia (Kyuss, Unida, Hermano, etc.) released a solo album this month. Still haven't gotten around to buying it.

Truckfighters also came out with a new album recently. It's definitely stoner, but it's not very heavy. I think it's going to take me longer to get into it than previous albums.

And not exactly new, but two bands I've gotten into recently are Kylesa and Puny Human. Something for everybody in each band, I think.

[Cambo]

Mastodon and Kylesa I love, Kyuss and Truckfighters I haven't listened to much of but enjoy what I've heard.

Other stoner or sludge metal bands I like:

Electric Wizard- Funeralopalis

Sleep- Dragonaut

Ufomammut- Stigma

Baroness- The Gnashing

And just cause it's one of my favourite riffs of all time:
Mastodon- Blood and Thunder

Cheers Syl!