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The conceptual leap needed here is hollow disks that can lie at other angles than perpendicular.wayfriend wrote:Honninscrave wore a "sark" (shirt) of "interlocking granite discs", but also leather leggings. This is, I think, another clue about what might be possible. But I don't know how discs can interlock.
Interlocking Discs
I was imagining something more like leather thongs which secured the discs to each other as well as to the leather sark underneath.aliantha wrote:So you'd need pins to hold the discs together? Looks to me like that would be a weak point. Too easy for a pin to work itself free.
Something like this is what I was picturing, albeit on a larger scale.aliantha wrote:So you'd need pins to hold the discs together? Looks to me like that would be a weak point. Too easy for a pin to work itself free.
I wonder whether the granite disks couldn't have been sculpted or bent to lie sort of flat -- like a tile roof.
Frostheart Grueburn wrote:Also I heard that the bodies Hue was using for the Giantesses pose certain adjustment restrictions, so unless he finds a route to circumvent the problem, you might get more narrow-hipped ladies this time.
Yeah, like that. Like fish scales, kind of.Sorus wrote:Something like this is what I was picturing, albeit on a larger scale.aliantha wrote:So you'd need pins to hold the discs together? Looks to me like that would be a weak point. Too easy for a pin to work itself free.
I wonder whether the granite disks couldn't have been sculpted or bent to lie sort of flat -- like a tile roof.
I'm...not ascertained as to how I managed to read that as "lampey".Cord Hurn wrote:The draft skurj seems somewhat like a lamprey with regard to mouth placement and overall looks.
No, the interlocking discs were Honninscrave's thing. I only mentioned it because it was tangentially informative - it may have shed light on what Giants can and cannot do with stone armor.Frostheart Grueburn wrote:I couldn't find a reference anywhere in the LC's that the cataphract slabs were interlocking.
Personally, I am not sure if Donaldson properly understood what a cataphract was, or if he used some obscure version of a definition that I am unaware of. This is the definition I find [more or less] everywhere.In [i]Against All Things Ending[/i] was wrote:"Rest if you must," Coldspray replied, hoarse with thirst. "If you are able to do so, arise and aid me. We must make use of your cataphract as basins for water."
[...] The halves of the cataphracts were large enough to hold substantial quantities of water.
Clearly, the Giantesses aren't wearing horsemen. Nor are they wearing whole body armor, the way Donaldson describes it, which is pretty much as a pair of stone plates, front and back.thefreedictionary.com wrote:Cat´a`phract
1. (Mil. Antiq.) Defensive armor used for the whole body and often for the horse, also, esp. the linked mail or scale armor of some eastern nations.
2. A horseman covered with a cataphract.
3. (Zool.) The armor or plate covering some fishes.
In [i]Fatal Revenant[/i] was wrote:He wore a cataphract of granite slabs which had been fused together by some Giantish lore.
Anele stroked the smooth stone of Coldspray's armorand crooned as though he were being cradled.
In [i]The Last Dark[/i] was wrote:Then they, too, unclasped their cataphracts. When they had shrugged the shaped stone off their shoulders, they slumped to the ground.
Yes, it describes a breastplate and a back[plate]. But I found Coldspray's method for taking this off a bit funny but also a bit illuminating. She literally rolled out of it. Rather than sit up and shrug it off.In [i]Against All Things Ending[/i] was wrote:"Ironhand," Clyme stated, "we require your armor to carry water."
Coldspray regarded him with an air of stupefaction. Briefly she struggled to understand him. Then she managed a nod. Fumbling, she undid the bindings of her cataphract. When that was done, she rolled across the sand until she left the breastplate and back of her armor behind.
Freed from the heavy stone, she labored unsteadily to her feet and watched as Clyme and Branl each stooped to lift half of her cataphract.
Yes, it describes the armor as if it was inflexible. But it also provides some imagery that hints on the proportions. They would be better swinging weapons if they were longer than they were wide, especially when swinging at something you don't want your hands near.In [i]Against All Things Ending[/i] was wrote:Bluntfist and then Stonemage unclosed their cataphracts, shrugged the stone from their shoulders. Using their armor like spades or bludgeons, they crushed skest; deflected the spatter of green corrosion.
Yup, most technical details considered, such as how Grueburn was able to crawl on all fours in the Lost Deep clad in her armor. To be able to do that, the breastplate might have attachable faulds, but cannot be solid from shoulders to below hips if it allows such leg movement.wayfriend wrote:Yes. looking back over your post, I can see that perhaps these are all things that you have considered. You have my apologies, if so.
But I found Coldspray's method for taking this off a bit funny but also a bit illuminating. She literally rolled out of it. Rather than sit up and shrug it off.
Aah but consider falling down and the edge of the shelf hitting either your over- or underboob ribcage. The model should be very gently curving to prevent such hazards.wayfriend wrote:P.S. "boob armor" would not be a death-trap if the "valley" was removed. Imagine one hill ranging from the left side to the right. You can have femininity without losing the fem inside. It would provide an ample repository for water transportation. And what man could resist curling up inside for a nap?