variol son wrote:
In addition, I'm not really sure what it is that I might possibly need help with from you (you're post is a little unclear), but if it is help "curing" my homosexuality, then let me politely advise you that your assistance is not required.
No is it given for that purpose. I think we misunderstand each other.
I stayed away & planned on staying away until you answered me. I think that I made a mistake there. I did not know that you and I so misunderstood eachother. I should have at least PM'd you. And in the future, should such a mexican standoff arise I promise to do just that with anyone here. I'm sorry that you thought I was saying something that I was not & that I did not elaborate when there was silence. I should have been more empathic than that.
My statement was made to help you in one regard, and that was merely to convince you that your homosexuality isn't an issue. It isn't an issue to me, to God, or to anyone here. So I asked, why is it an issue to you, Variol Son? Why do you need to say, "I'm gay"? I don't tell you or anyone here who I sleep with or that I sleep with a certain sex or how long it has been since I had sex. My sexlife isn't a reflection of who I am, nor should it be.
Now I know that you can say, as others have, that this was in response to the question or to make a point. But my perspective is that it shouldn't be a point in the first place. No one else really pointed out their own sin or what a Church might consider a sin; at least not to my recollection anyway. I never heard anyone say, I swear alot & Christians can't handle it. Or really anything. But you offered to say you are homosexual. And my friend, this isn't the first time that you offer this information so freely.
So this is why it seems to me that people are first invited to know you as a homosexual and then to know you as a person. Shouldn't it be that your sexual preference be something that is sort of found out later and not something that you wear on your sleeve? Why do you insist on putting up barriers or testing people or whatever it might be that you are doing, when instead you could just be yourself & we would come to know you as the tender-hearted, caring, intelligent, thoughtful, insightful, funny, sarcastic, cynical, rightwing democrat, agnostic, and then gay person that you are? Why does it have to be the first thing we have to encounter?
And of course, my second statement was why do you think your sin (as God may consider it) is something that blocks God's love from you? Paul the Apostle was murdering Christians before he became the highest of all history of apostles of Christ. The angels came to city to take Lot out before it was destroyed and the men of the city wanted to rape the angels & Lot gave them his two virgin daughters to be gang-raped by the mob. It is those that know their sin or their lifestyle and block God from them that are damned, not those that realize that nothing that they can do can prevent God from loving them as His creation. You could say, I don't know God if you see my lifestyle as sin or not, it's confusing, but I know you still love me regardless of what organized religion says, and you would be correct. For God so loved the world. No one measures up, not one, none; we're all the same. If you are black, white, asian, woman, gay, short, tall, murderer, thief, liar, idol worshipper, satanist, rapist, gossipper, cross-dresser, alcoholic, muslim, buddhist, atheist, agnostic, narcissistic, have bad breath, or don't shower often, GOD STILL LOVES YOU! It might not make sense. It might not feel right by our human morals. But it doesn't matter. The Bible tells us that no one is perfect & all those references to immorality refer to me as much as they do to you. In fact, perhaps even more. But
, that's none of your business. I'd rather you think about who I am as a person rather than what I do in private when the doors are closed. They are closed because I wish to be alone with my lover. If that is a squirrel, a woman, a man, a boy, an angel, matters nothing to you. The door is closed. The closet... that's open. If I am not ashamed of what I do, then we may speak of it. But it won't be the first thing I'll bring up.
Do you understand me now? I'm not trying to convert you from homosexuality, and I Don't even think that's possible and certainly none of my business to attempt in the first place. I'm trying to say that I want to know "you" as you. And I'm trying to say that God doesn't care. It is not an issue at all, in any way. ANd that if it is sin to God, then He'll live with it if you continue sinning. But what breaks His heart is that you keep shunning Him even though He still loves you regardless of what you do, what you've done, or what you will ever do.
