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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:24 am
by ussusimiel
Vraith wrote:First time [I think...it's possible I had it before and have just forgotten] I had Amontillado was arguing with a guy I knew in Germany about Poe and the Alan Parsons Project interpretation of him. We thought it would be appropriate, so went and got some. I quite liked it.
This just keeps on getting weirder and weirder. I used to be an Alan Parson's Project fan (which probably means I still am

) I'm sure I have 'Tales of Mystery and Imagination' on tape around somewhere.
Are you sure you're not me, Vraith?
I had some lovely fino when I was in Cordoba a few years ago. I probably prefer it to the more fortified Amontillado and Oloroso, but I'm not sure, so I'll probably need to do another couple of decades of experimentation!
u.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:52 pm
by peter
Av - that is a must! Find a live version and sit back and hold on

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Wine tastes like feet...... well as any good chiropodist will tell you there are feet.....and there are FEET!
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:46 pm
by Orlion
ussusimiel wrote:
I had some lovely fino when I was in Cordoba a few years ago. I probably prefer it to the more fortified Amontillado and Oloroso, but I'm not sure, so I'll probably need to do another couple of decades of experimentation!
u.
I have not had any fino yet, but I imagine it to be "less strong" than Amontillado and Oloroso.
Manzinilla is named such because it has a delicate apple taste like chamomile (which is te de manzinilla in Spanish)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:21 pm
by Vraith
ussusimiel wrote:Vraith wrote:First time [I think...it's possible I had it before and have just forgotten] I had Amontillado was arguing with a guy I knew in Germany about Poe and the Alan Parsons Project interpretation of him. We thought it would be appropriate, so went and got some. I quite liked it.
This just keeps on getting weirder and weirder. I used to be an Alan Parson's Project fan (which probably means I still am

) I'm sure I have 'Tales of Mystery and Imagination' on tape around somewhere.
Are you sure you're not me, Vraith?
u.
Of their first 5 albums, I could sing along every word for 4 of them [not Eve...]
I keep meaning to track down the remix of "Tales" on CD that added Orson Welles for some narration. [never actually heard any of it, just heard it exists].
While getting gin yesterday, I noticed an Irish whiskey on sale---2Gingers---perhaps it was sending us a message???
Fun time thing---at basic/AIT training, I turned "Dr. Tarr and Professor Fether" into a cadence call for runs. Tried it several ways, the best was I'd call a verse-line, squad leaders would sound it back, all the rest of platoon just kept chanting JUST what you need to make you feel better
Just what you need to make you feel
Just what you need to make you feel better
Just what you need to make you feel
It worked great...perfect tempo, and Just/need/make/BEtter hit the left hard and on beat...but the rest of the line is syncopated.
Way fun.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:16 pm
by Sorus
Orlion wrote:
Manzinilla is named such because it has a delicate apple taste like chamomile (which is te de manzinilla in Spanish)
Manzinilla sounds like a monster from a low-budget movie. Manzinilla Vs. Mothra.
No, I'm not drunk.
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:21 pm
by Cagliostro
Sorus wrote:
Manzinilla sounds like a monster from a low-budget movie. Manzinilla Vs. Mothra.
Or a gay porn actor.
Not that I'd...uhh....know...or anything.
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:11 pm
by aliantha
I think it's spelled "manzanilla", guys.
Avatar wrote:Orlion wrote:Look, you can't call me a Philistine if your wine can be bought at a gas station or comes in a box.
Wait, what?
--A
You've never heard of
Two-Buck Chuck, I take it? It's surprisingly drinkable. And it's more like $3.50 here in Virginia now...
One of these days I need to try Amontillado.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:42 am
by Rigel
aliantha wrote:
You've never heard of
Two-Buck Chuck, I take it? It's surprisingly drinkable. And it's more like $3.50 here in Virginia now...
One of these days I need to try Amontillado.
Last time I bought anything that could be labeled Two Buck Chuck, I literally poured it down the drain.
Don't do it.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:54 am
by Savor Dam
Probably best not to accept any invitation for Amontillado tasting from Loremaster's brother.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:41 am
by Avatar
Rigel wrote:aliantha wrote:
You've never heard of
Two-Buck Chuck, I take it? It's surprisingly drinkable. And it's more like $3.50 here in Virginia now...
One of these days I need to try Amontillado.
Last time I bought anything that could be labeled Two Buck Chuck, I literally poured it down the drain.
Don't do it.
Uh, yeah, I won't.

One of the best parts of getting older is being able to spend more on wine.
--A
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:47 pm
by aliantha
Suit yerselves. It really isn't bad. Beats the crap out of the rotgut-in-a-box....
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:47 am
by Sorus
Savor Dam wrote:Probably best not to accept any invitation for Amontillado tasting from Loremaster's brother.
Hah. I thought the same thing.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:17 am
by Avatar
aliantha wrote:Suit yerselves. It really isn't bad. Beats the crap out of the rotgut-in-a-box....
Haha, that I'll grant you. We're lucky enough to have some pretty good quality wines at very reasonable prices here, I must say.
--A
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:03 am
by peter
Same in the UK. The weird 'duty' situation here means the cheap stuff is not that far behind the good quality stuff in price. The cheapest wine you'd get is around £3.99 a bottle and you could strip paint with it; if you're prepared to go up to £5.99 and shop around you can get some cracking deals on really reasonable quality wines. If you push the boat up to £10 and get 'end of line' offers in the top-end supermarkets, you're getting stuff of a quality that would cost you £40 or £50 a bottle [in terms of comparable quality] in a restaurant.
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:10 am
by Avatar
Restaurant prices are never a good guide.

Here it's about a 200-300% mark-up compared to the shops.
--A
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:53 am
by peter
In Abu-Dhabi I paid £60 for a bottle we sell in our shop for £6 [there were no cheaper alternatives and they opperate on the basis of 'you can drink if you want to - but be prepared to spring big-time!']. In the UK it's probably similar to your level Av, but they do seem often to 'scource' better wines than find their way into the supermarkets.
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:05 pm
by Sorus
Gonna side with Ali on this one, though admittedly I rarely drink wine.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:22 am
by Avatar
peter (USSM) wrote:In Abu-Dhabi I paid £60 for a bottle we sell in our shop for £6 [there were no cheaper alternatives and they opperate on the basis of 'you can drink if you want to - but be prepared to spring big-time!']. In the UK it's probably similar to your level Av, but they do seem often to 'scource' better wines than find their way into the supermarkets.
Depends on the restaurant really. But because we produce a lot of our own wine, even high quality brands and vintages are fairly easily available in most supermarkets and bottle stores. (That's off-licenses to you.

)
--A
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:27 pm
by Vraith
Avatar wrote:peter (USSM) wrote:In Abu-Dhabi I paid £60 for a bottle we sell in our shop for £6 [there were no cheaper alternatives and they opperate on the basis of 'you can drink if you want to - but be prepared to spring big-time!']. In the UK it's probably similar to your level Av, but they do seem often to 'scource' better wines than find their way into the supermarkets.
Depends on the restaurant really. But because we produce a lot of our own wine, even high quality brands and vintages are fairly easily available in most supermarkets and bottle stores. (That's off-licenses to you.

)
--A
Hmmm...rules vary by State here...I don't know if there are any supermarkets where you can get wine. I'm trying to recall if CA had wine in supermarkets way back then...I'm tempted to say yes, some did, but it was really shitty chain wines? Could be full of crap on that.
But there are the liquor stores...
and the price of a GLASS in a restaurant is [very roughly] the same cost as at least a bottle---maybe two---of equal/better wine at the store.
Some places you can bring your own bottle, some they charge a small amount if you do.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:00 am
by Avatar
Yes, many restaurants will allow that here, and there's usually a corkage charge. I very rarely use it though, maybe once or twice for very large groups.
As for supermarkets, liquor laws are fairly relaxed here for the most part.
--A