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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:04 pm
by Landwaster
But you're out of that tank now, though, aren't yer, danlo? :)

F&F - well how about that!

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:21 pm
by danlo
:? **Twilight Zone theme plays...**

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:10 pm
by Infelice
After reading Danlo's post I also reread those sections of The One Tree and for the life of me I couldn't find anything there that could have made me draw the conclusion that Elemesnedene was an island. So I checked out my copy of The Atlas Of The Land hoping to find some indication there, but nope, nothing. The actual topography looks very similar to that of the fjord lands in Europe. Boy did I miss the mark :roll:

The idea that The Maidan could be the portal to a parallel dimension is one I also had thought about with the actual door being the fountain of the Callowwail. In describing Elemesnedene, Honninscrave says;
"This the Elohim name the maidan of Elemesnedene. At its center lies the clachan itself, the spring and fountain of the Callowwail. But that clachan we will never find without the guidance of the Elohim. If they do not choose to meet us, we will wander the maidan as it were a maze, and there we will leave our bones to nourish the grass."
You can draw parallels to Damelon's Door and the approach to Earthroot.

In The Atlas Of The Land the maidan is described as...
The grassy area is known as the maidan of Elemesnede, while the fountain in its midst has the ability to translocate visitors to the clachan of the Elohim. Maidan is defined as the open area around a town, while clachan is the town itself. These are only figurative in the case of Elemesnedene, however the fountain acts only as a point of metaphysical transfer to reach the actual clachan - that part of Elemesnedene physically occupied by the Elohim.

The clachan appears like a wonderland, but its features are manifestations of the Elohim. Once the Elohimleave, the area becomes a "vaguely undulating emptiness under a moonstone sky... as barren and sterile as a desert."
In the quest for the Earthblood, Elena and Covenant needed the guidance of Amok to access that manifestation of Earthpower through the portal of Damelon's Door.

The Elohim, another mainifestation of Earthpower, are physcially located in a similar transdimensional realm, the clachan and access to that place is only granted through the Elohim themselves.

Maybe the Earthpower existed separate from the Land and the Earth in this other "dimension" before the Arch Of Time and the Creator used this energy to cause The Land's existence and planted these portals as a way of ensuring that there was some way for the inhabitants to maintain his creation and combat Fouls attempts to corrupt it.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:19 pm
by Landwaster
Hmmm ... interesting stuffs ... its almost going so far as to hint that those places (eg Elemesnedene) are outside the AoT ... though I doubt that's meant to be the case.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:02 am
by Ryzel
I cannot believe that Elemesnedene is supposed to or even can be outside the AoT.

But leaving that aside I feel that there are compelling evidence that the Earthpower is accessible in most places in the upper and the lower land. Remember that the Lords were able to summon earthpower in the Sarangrave and no-one suggested that the gildenlode keels would not work on the open ocean.

That said, there are obviously many places where the earthpower are stronger than others: Andelain, Mount Thunder, Earthroot. Probably also The Island of the One Tree and Elemesnedene.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 1:21 pm
by Fist and Faith
Infelice wrote:Maybe the Earthpower existed separate from the Land and the Earth in this other "dimension" before the Arch Of Time and the Creator used this energy to cause The Land's existence and planted these portals as a way of ensuring that there was some way for the inhabitants to maintain his creation and combat Fouls attempts to corrupt it.
I love these kinds of ideas!!! :D

I agree with Rizel that Earthpower is just about everywhere.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:58 pm
by danlo
Good points Ryzel, but I'd like to think that Earthpower was a bit stronger in the areas the RoD affected the most. Coalesing there, as it were, to provide more healing and regrowth... :?

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:45 pm
by Landwaster
Crikey that's interesting, I like Infelice's comments and I'm SURE that if that were possible, then it must still be possible that Elemesnedene is NOT constrained by the bounds of the AoT.

Cause I reckon it might be the case. But still, all is possible :)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:20 am
by danlo
bump

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:25 am
by Landwaster
Aha! That's what I was guessing! Thanks danlo, Elohim don't live on an island (at least not necessarily!). I love your geog refs, can't believe I'd forgotten this and it was ME who started the thread!

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:28 am
by danlo
:| :D