POSSIBLE BIG HONKING SPOILER

[CovenantJr]

He certainly doesn't seem to be using any of his former might. Just "whispered a word of council here and there". Maybe he has little power left except to manipulate others (though in Foul's hands that may be enough).

Again, I consider that a possibility. We know Foul has never been defeated before in quite the way he was defeated in WGW. He almost evaported during his thrashing against the Arch. It wouldn't surprise me if the only power he has left is devious manipulation - but that was always his greatest power...

Granted, he wants to encourage her to serve his purpose, but that whole exchange between him and Linden ("What have you done?" "Me? Nothing! Just put in a word here and there") struck me as the most human-like statement we've ever heard from the Despiser.

Yes, the almost conversational tone of that exchange struck me as very odd at the time, and has become no less odd with hindsight.

[[Syl]]

Considering it's Donaldson, the first thing Anele reminded me of was Anile.

[Raist]

Considering it's Donaldson, the first thing Anele reminded me of was Anile.

Good call! Also consider than an Anole is a chameleon, and considering Anele's changeable nature, that may be apropos.

R.

[Raist]

It's occurred to me too that Foul could well just be lying. He always lies. He only tells the truth when it's more damaging than a lie.

He certainly doesn't seem to be using any of his former might. Just "whispered a word of council here and there". Maybe he has little power left except to manipulate others (though in Foul's hands that may be enough).

Does it occur only to me that Foul seems almost, erm, human this time around? I mean, he's been pretty decent to Linden so far, pointing her toward the hurtloam and all. Granted, he wants to encourage her to serve his purpose, but that whole exchange between him and Linden ("What have you done?" "Me? Nothing! Just put in a word here and there") struck me as the most human-like statement we've ever heard from the Despiser.

SRD has said several times over the years that in his conception of the Third Chronicals, Covenant himelf would BE Lord Foul.

So maybe at the end of Runes, Foul actually *does* still have Jeremiah.

Dun Dun Dun!

Beware the halfhand indeed. Maybe he is now some kind of strange alloy of Wild Magic, leprosy, venom, despiser and Covenant. Bereft of his ring, he can only manipulate ( but why does he still need the ring). And really, who better to manipulate Joan and Roger. They are in the land because of their connection to Tom, not the more tenuous connection to Linden.

Just thinking aloud again...

R.

[Raist]

I explored some more permutations and associations with Anele's name. Some of them seemed pretty appropriate, which could well be coincidence (but knowing SRD as we do...). So to sum up the possible associations with Anele's name put forth so far (definitions from dictionary.com):

Anele = Elena reversed

Anele : administer an oil or ointment to ; often in a religious ceremony of blessing

Anneal : To subject to a process of heating and slow cooling in order to toughen and reduce brittleness.

Anile : of or like a feeble old woman

Annul : To make or declare void or invalid, to obliterate the effect or existence of.

Anole : A Chameleon

Anally : ...well, I'm trying to be comprehensive here ;o)

R.

[burgs]

Anneal and Anile both fall into SRDs list of words that he likes to use that the average reader has never seen, much less knows the meaning of.

[Fist and Faith]

Thats easy. It is THE ARCH OF TIME! The racetracks are the mapping of the caesures; the course they take throughout time.

That really is a great theory!!!!!

That's a fascinating theory, and you're undoubtedly correct. I'm kicking myself for missing that. Donaldson would never describe something in such concrete detail if it meant absolutely nothing.

This raises an interesting question. IF it is the real Jeremiah being brought to Revelstone, and IF he's been tampered with by Foul and delivered to Linden et. al through the Demondim, why is Foul returning him ?

What springs to mind for me is that Foul knows that Linden will figure out the connection, and learn how to use the caesures with much less pain, and without needing the Ranyhyn (although I doubt she'll ever need to worry about being without one). She'll think she can use them more easily and safely, and will start using them a lot more. And each time she does, she wears away at the AoT.

Perhaps the Creator visited Jeremiah, and told him to "Be true."

Right? Linden had no reason to think that she would be visited a second time before the whole thing starts. Covenant was only visited the first time, but not the second.

[A Gunslinger]

Thats easy. It is THE ARCH OF TIME! The racetracks are the mapping of the caesures; the course they take throughout time.

That really is a great theory!!!!!

That's a fascinating theory, and you're undoubtedly correct. I'm kicking myself for missing that. Donaldson would never describe something in such concrete detail if it meant absolutely nothing.

This raises an interesting question. IF it is the real Jeremiah being brought to Revelstone, and IF he's been tampered with by Foul and delivered to Linden et. al through the Demondim, why is Foul returning him ?

What springs to mind for me is that Foul knows that Linden will figure out the connection, and learn how to use the caesures with much less pain, and without needing the Ranyhyn (although I doubt she'll ever need to worry about being without one). She'll think she can use them more easily and safely, and will start using them a lot more. And each time she does, she wears away at the AoT.

Perhaps the Creator visited Jeremiah, and told him to "Be true."

Right? Linden had no reason to think that she would be visited a second time before the whole thing starts. Covenant was only visited the first time, but not the second.

I am kicking myself for not sharing that notion before this. I had considered it, but dismissed it (the Arch of time)...I am suprised that Linden didn't consider it.

Other things:

1) The Creator. I am beginning to think that TC (a very messianic figure in the 1st 2 chronciles...lots of crucifixtion imagery to say nothing of the self-sacrifice leading to ascention) is NOW the Creator, and may have been all along. He is the symbolic son of the creator, perhaps the ochre beggar has moved on as well as TC. Think on this. "You are the White Gold"...once ascended, perhaps TC "is the arch".

I spoke of this on another thread, but there is a lot of SON -stuff going around. Son of TC. Son Linden. Son of Cail. Son of Sunder. Son of a bitch (that we have to wait for YEARS!)

2) Foul/Jermiah. Perhaps TC freed himself from the arch to pull him from Foul's clutches...or perhaps Foul released him and TC unfettered himself (risking the Arch) for the purpose of protecting Linden from the corruption of her love. I believe Jeremiah ...another name note....sound like Jehannum...is the 1/2 hand to beware of.

I wonder if SRD reads this wild speculation and laughs himself silly at our feckless, blind speculation?

[burgs]

One thing I remembered.

Jeremiah never made use of any of the cars while his racing track was setup. But when Roger had hold of him, just before Lytton's deputies tore the place apart, Jeremiah had a red racing car in his hand.

[A Gunslinger]

One thing I remembered.

Jeremiah never made use of any of the cars while his racing track was setup. But when Roger had hold of him, just before Lytton's deputies tore the place apart, Jeremiah had a red racing car in his hand.

Was he not also carrying that very car at the end of the book?

[burgs]

No.

[A Gunslinger]

well then...iy appears I have lost my mind. I guess in my mind's eye I saw him carrying it still.

*AG needs more rest*

*perhaps some valium*