Arrangement & Production
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Lord Mhoram
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I didn't like it a bit on The Ramones' End of the Century album at all.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Lord Mhoram
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I guess it worked well with the type of music he was doing in the 50s & 60s, but I think it removes any sense of energy or drama from the music.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Lord Mhoram
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and speaking of brilliant...arrangment, production...
King Crimson
Trey Gunn, Adrian Belew, Robert Fripp, and Pat Mastelotto
King Crimson
Trey Gunn, Adrian Belew, Robert Fripp, and Pat Mastelotto
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
I posted this in Cail's previous thread about best-produced albums:
Also love the production on U2's Nineties albums: Achtung Baby, Zooropa and Pop. From what I've read here in Vespers, I know that many of you don't care for post-Eighties U2, but personally I found the band much more interesting, both musically and visually, after it "re-invented" itself for the '90s and beyond.
Guess you'd like some mention of classical/folk stuff, Lucimay, so...
The Planets! I've been listening to it so much for that dissection of mine that I'm almost sick of it, heh. But there's no doubt that a good recording of this work can really show off your stereo system. I mentioned James Levine's version with the Chicago Symphony, a 1989 digital recording. It packs a punch, and still outshines newer versions that I've heard. I use Mars from it as a reference test track.
In the World or Folk or Celtic section (depending on which store you're in) I adore Loreena McKennitt. She built her own studio and produced her own albums. I think her masterpiece remains 1994's The Mask and Mirror. The sound is dense and intoxicating, blending Western and Eastern musical styles. When I first listened to this album, I was totally mesmerized. It was like being taken to the Land, or some other far off place. (Fellow Watcher Iryssa is a fan of McKennitt as well, but she hasn't been around for a long time.) The Mask and Mirror was re-issued in 2004 in remastered sound (along with McKennitt's other albums). I use Santiago from the CD as another reference test track.
Btw, I just happened to buy the 25th anniversary re-issue of Cheap Trick's Dream Police. Still lovin' the album after all these years.Cheap Trick: Dream Police -- a common criticism of this album is that it's too polished and lacks the energy of the band's Live at Budokan release. Well, I say that's hogwash! Back in '79, Dream Police was the album that showed this 8-year old kid how exciting and gorgeous a rock album can sound.
Simple Minds: Street Fighting Years -- depending on your point of view, this was either SM at their sublime best or pretentious worst. Released in '89, this album is to me a grand (and grandiose) commentary on the angst and turmoil of the Eighties.The album was produced by Stephen Lipson and Trevor Horn (of Yes), and what they provide here is a wide-open sound. This was the band's first digital recording but with analog mixing, so SFY retained a certain "warmth" in its sound that was perhaps lacking in other early digital efforts from the '80s.
Radiohead: Kid A -- Heh, I've already blabbed on about this album in the Radiohead thread. Everything about the production just seems impeccable. Huge sound, yet an intimate feel.
Also love the production on U2's Nineties albums: Achtung Baby, Zooropa and Pop. From what I've read here in Vespers, I know that many of you don't care for post-Eighties U2, but personally I found the band much more interesting, both musically and visually, after it "re-invented" itself for the '90s and beyond.
Guess you'd like some mention of classical/folk stuff, Lucimay, so...
The Planets! I've been listening to it so much for that dissection of mine that I'm almost sick of it, heh. But there's no doubt that a good recording of this work can really show off your stereo system. I mentioned James Levine's version with the Chicago Symphony, a 1989 digital recording. It packs a punch, and still outshines newer versions that I've heard. I use Mars from it as a reference test track.
In the World or Folk or Celtic section (depending on which store you're in) I adore Loreena McKennitt. She built her own studio and produced her own albums. I think her masterpiece remains 1994's The Mask and Mirror. The sound is dense and intoxicating, blending Western and Eastern musical styles. When I first listened to this album, I was totally mesmerized. It was like being taken to the Land, or some other far off place. (Fellow Watcher Iryssa is a fan of McKennitt as well, but she hasn't been around for a long time.) The Mask and Mirror was re-issued in 2004 in remastered sound (along with McKennitt's other albums). I use Santiago from the CD as another reference test track.
heheh, take Lucymay to bring in a Crimso reference ... Well, I happen to agree. Most Crimson albums irk me because, although the music is absolutely fantastic!!!! there always seems to be something amiss the way everything is mixed. "Power to Beleive" changed that for me. This is nearly a perfectly mixed/produced album from them.And speaking of Eno! ... Brian Eno is a production GOD! Everything he touches is brilliant and sounds imaculate and perfect for the artist/band. So far, of all the albums he has had his fingers on, I would have to say the best produced is Bowie's "Outside 1.0". Absolutely stunning. Turn off the lights, put the headphones on (or turn up the speakers) and lay down and just listen ...
~...with a floating smile and a light blue sponge...~
