How Do You Feel Today? v4
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Masks are for people to avoid infecting others. Pretty ineffective when it comes to protecting you from being infected.
Much more likely to get infected from touching a contaminated surface, and then touching your face as you re-adjust your uncomfortable mask.
Also, safely removing a mask which may in itself be contaminated requires a learned technique. Leave the masks for the people who need them, wash your hands, don't touch your face without washing them thoroughly again.
3 cases here so far, apparently all contained for the moment.
--A
Much more likely to get infected from touching a contaminated surface, and then touching your face as you re-adjust your uncomfortable mask.
Also, safely removing a mask which may in itself be contaminated requires a learned technique. Leave the masks for the people who need them, wash your hands, don't touch your face without washing them thoroughly again.
3 cases here so far, apparently all contained for the moment.
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This seems like pretty solid advice, based on all I have read about this corona virus from our official health authorities.Avatar wrote:Masks are for people to avoid infecting others. Pretty ineffective when it comes to protecting you from being infected.
Much more likely to get infected from touching a contaminated surface, and then touching your face as you re-adjust your uncomfortable mask.
Also, safely removing a mask which may in itself be contaminated requires a learned technique. Leave the masks for the people who need them, wash your hands, don't touch your face without washing them thoroughly again.
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A few things
1) julie is having a heart procedure on
Thursday. She has afib. So they will do
Ablation for it.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... n-ablation
Julie does not respond well to anesthesia.
Takes a long time to wake up.
2] my mom has congestive heart failure. She was in the hospital
This past weekend. Turns out she had a cancerous growth
Removed from her stomach last month but was waiting for tests
To tell me.
3] I am getting my ankle fixed again in august. Will be out
Until October. This time two screws and a plate.
1) julie is having a heart procedure on
Thursday. She has afib. So they will do
Ablation for it.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... n-ablation
Julie does not respond well to anesthesia.
Takes a long time to wake up.
2] my mom has congestive heart failure. She was in the hospital
This past weekend. Turns out she had a cancerous growth
Removed from her stomach last month but was waiting for tests
To tell me.
3] I am getting my ankle fixed again in august. Will be out
Until October. This time two screws and a plate.
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Since we are all going old people maladies (sorry to hear about your wife and mom, Null), I too am braving the hospital today in light of all that is going on to get a liver biopsy that they found lesions on. Wow, there really are so many reasons to be afraid these days.
Plus, I just started a new job, have no time off to do all this medical stuff I need to do, and I can't stay and chat with y'all except at home, which usually I'm busy with the kids and so forth. I'm going to try to make it here more often, but I'm adjusting my life at the moment.
Take care y'all, and I'm sure I'll be back with better news later.
Plus, I just started a new job, have no time off to do all this medical stuff I need to do, and I can't stay and chat with y'all except at home, which usually I'm busy with the kids and so forth. I'm going to try to make it here more often, but I'm adjusting my life at the moment.
Take care y'all, and I'm sure I'll be back with better news later.

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Holy crap!
Effective at 6 p.m. tomorrow - Friday, March 13 - The Seattle Public Library will close all locations to the public, and these closures will remain in effect until at least April 13.
www.spl.org/ChiefLibrarian
Effective at 6 p.m. tomorrow - Friday, March 13 - The Seattle Public Library will close all locations to the public, and these closures will remain in effect until at least April 13.
www.spl.org/ChiefLibrarian

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Libraries, schools, museums, everything here is closed. When I left work my boss was on an ominous conference call. I have enough PTO to get me through a rough patch, but this is scary. I'm torn because we do need to take this seriously, but so many people here are living paycheck-to-paycheck.
Oh, a change is coming, feel these doors now closing
Is there no world for tomorrow, if we wait for today?
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It seems that the USA is taking this more seriously than here in the UK. I was in Birmingham yesterday, Britain's second largest city, and it was crowded and business as usual.Sorus wrote:Libraries, schools, museums, everything here is closed.
As Italy is now closed we were scheduled to handle thier workload with statutory overtime. Got a text message this morning cancelling SOT, thank goodness.
There were some rumours floating around the workplace through the week that we might close down as well. I've squirreled away a small bundle for emergencies and would welcome the break.
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I would love a break, I just want some reassurance that things will be back to normal-ish in the near-ish future, and that doesn't seem likely. People here went into full panic mode after the school closures were announced - descended on grocery stores like seagulls at a picnic.
It's been a pretty fascinating display of human nature and whatnot, but I'm struggling to get a big picture vision of what things are going to look like a month - two months down the road.
It's been a pretty fascinating display of human nature and whatnot, but I'm struggling to get a big picture vision of what things are going to look like a month - two months down the road.
Oh, a change is coming, feel these doors now closing
Is there no world for tomorrow, if we wait for today?
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Oy, Murrin.
But, if it is out there now, not taking precautions can lead to more widespread exposure. The social distancing here in the States is to hopefully "flatten the curve" of the number of cases at one time.
I don't think anyone expects to lessen the number of cases. The intent is to spread them out over a longer time so the medical system is impacted less at once.
But, if it is out there now, not taking precautions can lead to more widespread exposure. The social distancing here in the States is to hopefully "flatten the curve" of the number of cases at one time.
I don't think anyone expects to lessen the number of cases. The intent is to spread them out over a longer time so the medical system is impacted less at once.

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Yeah, can't help feeling it's all some social experiment.Sorus wrote:It's been a pretty fascinating display of human nature and whatnot, but I'm struggling to get a big picture vision of what things are going to look like a month - two months down the road.
As if the virus were directly proportional to mobile technology such as smartphones and social media users - and only the very young and very old not jacked-in 24/7 supposedly are more at risk.
Interestingly, the first I've heard of a viral flu victim with a name and not just a number were Tom Hanks and his wife Rita.
But then I don't read newspapers or own a TV, catching only snippets of Al Jazeera BBC or the CNN in the canteen at work.
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Well, that escalated quickly.
Apparently we have 61 cases now, state of emergency has been called, schools closed from Wednesday (school holidays were starting soon anyway, so they just closing a bit early), large gatherings prohibited, travel bans, etc. etc.
Newsfeed is starting to look like an excerpt from the game Plague Incorporated.
Guess we'll see how it goes.
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Newsfeed is starting to look like an excerpt from the game Plague Incorporated.

Guess we'll see how it goes.
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With self isolation protocols in place, I think it is apropos for me to again publicly thank the Watcher who recorded every episode available of Doctor Who from An Unearthly Child through Twice Upon a Time on to dvd and shipped them to me. When cabin fever hits hard, I'll be distracted for a long time.

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They just issued shelter in place orders for SF and surrounding areas. Everything non-essential is shut down until April 7th. Yikes. I prepared for this, but I didn't expect it to really happen.
Also can't figure out if my workplace is considered non-essential. I want to say yes, but places that offer postal services are on the essential list, and the mothership won't shut us down if they think they can squeeze a dime out of it.
Also can't reach my boss - not surprising because this came out of nowhere - when I left work he was assuring me that we would not be closing.
I just want to know. Part of me hopes we are. I don't want to get sick, and I have literally never had 3 weeks off in my life. The last time I had 2 weeks off was in 2001.
Aaand edit. Apparently we are an essential business. Frak. No rest for the wicked. I knew I should've stayed in the book industry.
I suppose I should be grateful - although I do have over 3 weeks of PTO, I should save it in case I actually get sick. And while this does increase my odds of getting sick, I don't expect us to have many clients, and I was literally the only person in my car on the train home today.
Just got a robocall from work reiterating that all locations will be open and we're all expected to report for duty.
Also can't figure out if my workplace is considered non-essential. I want to say yes, but places that offer postal services are on the essential list, and the mothership won't shut us down if they think they can squeeze a dime out of it.
Also can't reach my boss - not surprising because this came out of nowhere - when I left work he was assuring me that we would not be closing.
I just want to know. Part of me hopes we are. I don't want to get sick, and I have literally never had 3 weeks off in my life. The last time I had 2 weeks off was in 2001.
Aaand edit. Apparently we are an essential business. Frak. No rest for the wicked. I knew I should've stayed in the book industry.
I suppose I should be grateful - although I do have over 3 weeks of PTO, I should save it in case I actually get sick. And while this does increase my odds of getting sick, I don't expect us to have many clients, and I was literally the only person in my car on the train home today.
Just got a robocall from work reiterating that all locations will be open and we're all expected to report for duty.
Oh, a change is coming, feel these doors now closing
Is there no world for tomorrow, if we wait for today?
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Oh yuuuck.Sorus wrote:Just got a robocall from work reiterating that all locations will be open and we're all expected to report for duty.
I would be scared.
(Darn. I was rooting for option "Sorus'-boss-truly-didn't-know-partly-because-things-can-change-so-fast.")
Also, RE grocery stores... I went to the local one we frequent on Sun. I felt like I was moving through a dream.
Not quite seagulls here, but more like anxiety lying under the surface of a quiet lake of facade.
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"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
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God damn those bastards. 
We're working from home as of yesterday, appears that one of our staff may have come into contact with somebody who was in contact with people who tested positive, so yesterday we were all told to go home, just in case.
Of course, we can work remotely, so not a big problem for us. Now have to wait and see if the potential source of exposure tests positive.
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We're working from home as of yesterday, appears that one of our staff may have come into contact with somebody who was in contact with people who tested positive, so yesterday we were all told to go home, just in case.
Of course, we can work remotely, so not a big problem for us. Now have to wait and see if the potential source of exposure tests positive.
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On the one hand, I should be grateful to have a job, because there are a LOT of people completely out of work right now, and I don't know what the future holds for my workplace.
On the other hand, I feel more expendable than essential, and it seems like places that actually care about their people are doing more to protect them. Not that this is breaking news; I just needed to vent a little.
It's not quite as surreal as I expected out there - people don't seem to be taking the STAY AT HOME headlines as seriously as they should be. I'd love to stay at home for three weeks. Makes me wonder what it would take for me to actually get some time off. Narrowed it down to either an earthquake of 7.0 or higher, or Martians, and I'm not 100% sure about the Martians.
On the other hand, I feel more expendable than essential, and it seems like places that actually care about their people are doing more to protect them. Not that this is breaking news; I just needed to vent a little.
It's not quite as surreal as I expected out there - people don't seem to be taking the STAY AT HOME headlines as seriously as they should be. I'd love to stay at home for three weeks. Makes me wonder what it would take for me to actually get some time off. Narrowed it down to either an earthquake of 7.0 or higher, or Martians, and I'm not 100% sure about the Martians.
Oh, a change is coming, feel these doors now closing
Is there no world for tomorrow, if we wait for today?