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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:25 am
by Avatar
I'm gonna go for indifferent. If he's insane, which he seems to be, he probably has no interest in him.
--A
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:22 pm
by Horrim Carabal
Avatar wrote:I'm gonna go for indifferent. If he's insane, which he seems to be, he probably has no interest in him.
--A
I suppose...although to be "indifferent" to a being like Foul seems quite odd.
Foul's like the elephant in the room - no matter what your aims or what you plan to do, you kind of have to take him and his aims into consideration...don't you?
Foul's kind of a hard guy to ignore.
However...the alternative, that there is a formal alliance between Foul and an Elohim (no matter how twisted and warped an Elohim) is almost unthinkable.
Wouldn't that imply an alliance between Corruption and Earthpower? Impossible?
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:36 pm
by Vraith
I'd go with insane [have I already answered this before?]...Kasty is so crazy, he doesn't care who he has to bargain with, or what else happens, as long as other elohim die die die. Kind of a kissing cousin to the Westboro baptists logic train.
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:08 am
by Horrim Carabal
Vraith wrote:I'd go with insane [have I already answered this before?]...Kasty is so crazy, he doesn't care who he has to bargain with, or what else happens, as long as other elohim die die die.
If that's true then Foul must regard him as a fool. A useful fool, though.
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:10 am
by halfhanded
I haven't been here in quite some time, as life tends to get in the way. But I just ordered, received, and read 'Against All Things Ending" in about a week and a half. It was good, but definitely not near the BEST of SRD's work.
If discussion picks back up, I can go into some of the things that I felt left me "cold", but I will mention one thing:
When Covenant tells Linden "Don't touch me", WHY, after everything they have been thru, would she automatically take that as a personal rejection??
I mean, the same thing happened in the "Second Chronicles", and she reacted the Exact. Same. Way. Did she forget? Did SRD? I understand her character has been going thru a lot, but she is a doctor. An intelligent woman. Trusting the man she wrenched from the afterlife shouldn't be so hard.
Anyway, that's just one of the things that bothered me about the book. I enjoyed quite a bit, but I was definitely hoping for more...
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:42 pm
by wayfriend
Good question halfhanded. (And by all means ask more!)
I think there are several things that when you bring them all together explain why Linden felt the way that she felt.
One is the earlier rejection of faux-Covenant, who told her she could not touch him. This hit her rather hard. When she finally caught on, it spurred her to find the real Covenant. Then she did. It has to be disappointing when the real Covenant echos the same don't-touch-me sentiment.
Second is, she knows that this don't-touch-me isn't the result of a spell.
Third, she presumably knows enough about Covenant to know what "don't touch me" means to him. It means he considers himself unclean ... and it means he considers her part of the society that should reject him. In a way, Covenant is denying their relationship is closer or means more than his relationship with the people of his town who hate him for being a leper.
And lastly, she's been through a lot, too. She's questioning herself. She's seeing things and using them to support her own negative conclusions about herself, rather than seeing what things might really mean.