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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:01 pm
by [Syl]
Very interesting question! I never even considered it. I googled up a bunch of websites naming themselves Caer (Insert druidic name here).
Caer
Caer Ibormeith was the daughter of the Faery King of Connacht, Ethal Anubal. The name Caer means "yew berry castle." It is said she is a goddess of dreams and visions, and she is known as a powerful shapeshifter because of her ability to change her shape. She spent one year in human form and alternate years in the form of a swan, changing shape every year at Samhain.
checked a lot of celtic dictionaries. believe it's welsh for "castle or fort." there are some conclusions one could draw from this.

And this might interest some; I found that "Aes Sidhe" is Celtic for "faery folk."

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:56 pm
by Fist and Faith
amanibhavam wrote:
Forestal wrote:i dont think so.... i think CC was still in garotting deep... i think it was the consiousness of the forest itself.
but the Raver specifically says that it is a voice of a forestal that Covenant hears; and I am sure a Raver would know, being a long-time enemy of the Forest and all Forestals
Plus, the Healer saying this:
"I will help you - because you are in need, and because the white gold reveals that great matters are afoot in the Land - and because the Forest found its voice to summon me for you, though that also I do not comprehend."
I gather she's been in Morinmoss for quite a while, but has never seen the forest act like this before.

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 5:29 pm
by Forestal
i guess so...

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:48 am
by Rocksister
Long time no post, but I"m reading TPTP now, so I can say something about all the humans in Foul's army. Law of death broken, he raised them up from the ground, maybe? It happens later for others to see; maybe he did it before then, too, to create his arms. Ur-viles are spawn, right, making more of themselves is how they came into being, so he upped the production requirements. Just a guess.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:00 am
by Blackhawk
I remember In PTP Banor telling TC that the lords tried to have Lena healed but when they took her to an Unfettered Healer the home or dwelling place of the healer had been abandoned and so the lords were unable to heal Lena as they were unable to heal many things. It has to be reference to the same healer who left everything and healed TC in Morrinmoss? but it doesnt say how long the home had been abandoned.

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:09 pm
by Seeker of Truth
Was Caer Caveral was sent to Morinmoss to complete his Forestal apprenticeship?

Or was CC at this time a fully fledged Forestal and was 'allocated' a forest to protect??

Lucky for TC (& the Land) he ended up at Morinmoss!!!!

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:09 am
by jwaneeta
Forestal wrote:i dont think so.... i think CC was still in garotting deep... i think it was the consiousness of the forest itself.
I simply *cannot* stay away from Forestal threads. :roll: It's an obsession.

blush :oops: Anyway: if you check the glossary at the end of TPTP, you'll find this:

Caer-Caveral: apprentice Forestal of Morinmoss Forest.

As for CC reaching out to the Lords in the years before the Sunbane -- I'd like to think he did. And I'd like to think that on his watch, Morinmoss became a happy, not-forbidding place, full of puppies and rainbows and moths the size of Cormorants. :)

No, seriously. Why? Because in all the Covenant books (and I say it with love) you never see anyone being happy. Everything's always going to hell in a handcart. So for my part, I firmly believe that in the years between TPTP and the rise of the Sunbane, the Land was a happy place, and people were insanely merry, and even poor Caer-Caveral -- tragic though his origins were -- actually liked his job. And this was reflected in the forest, which lost most of its malice and became a place of nicetude. Maybe Stonedowners even had picnics there. (They took all their trash with them when they went home, of course. :wink: )

Back to Covenant and the OP: good point about his persistently hazy POV. I hadn't really thought about it before, but you're absolutely right. It starts off with Foul's Winter obscuring his senses and from that point on TC always seems impaired. Nice insight.

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:18 am
by shadowbinding shoe
Doesn't it say that the army for the Illearth War was recruited from Mount Thunder (ur viles, kresh and cavewights) and the one in TPTP from the tainted lands below Landsdrop? Those swamps are densely populated with rapidly breeding monsters and twisted beings. And Lord Foul had the stone to summon them to him and encourage their breeding. And of course, Elena gave a helping hand with the Staff of Law too.