Kevin's Watch

Hey, does anyone like Liand?

I never had a problem with him...He just represents where the Landers are at this point in time.

Iggnorant to what's going on; Obedient to the Masters, yet do not trust them; Easily able to gain the lost Health Sense when separated from Kevins Dirt.

I can sympathise with Liand-it must have been very hard to leave Mithil Stowndown (although it's almost profitic that Someone from MS will acompany our hero!) I wanted to see him give Stave a punch in the chops--but I guess the now defunct 7000 old Oath of Peace is still coursing through their veils somewhat.

I think Liand is going to come into hiw own by the end of this series. Imagine growing up without any knowledge out side of your village. Then finding out that the people you thought were running things were keeping your entire planets history from you. He must regard the Masters with disgust.

JemCheeta wrote:Hey, does anyone like Liand?

Not particularly. I don't dislike him, he's just a bit bland. He's like Sunder, but not annoying - which makes him bland.

I agree -exactly-

3?

How about the Humbled?

Ignorant fools.

Maybe my opinion will change when the fake Covenant shows up in #8.

Why just one?! Foul should make LEGIONS of fake covenants! Literally tens of thousands! Attack of the Covenant Clones!

I suspect that the Humbled are going to come into their own soon enough. They are going be a (if not the) deciding factor in the resolution of one of the Land's crises. I say this because otherwise there would have been no reason for SRD to point out that the three together can overrule a decision by the leader of the Masters. We can be pretty darned sure that such an override is going to become needed.

Excellent point!

I'd have to say the jheherrin. I didn't see the point of them...

The jheherrin had two points that I can see:

1. They were a convenient device to smuggle Covenant and Foamfollower (neither of whom was well equipped to sneak around in the shadows) right under the nose of Lord Foul and deposit them at the front door of Foul's Creche. Without them, Covenant would have been stripped of the ring before he ever got to face the Despiser.

2. To babble on about 'The Pure One' at pathetic, whiny length, to throw into sharp relief the fact that Covenant was not pure, but Foamfollower made himself so. Covenant defeated Lord Foul that time by telling the dead heroes of the Land to heal themselves, but it was Foamfollower who first summoned the guts and goodwill to laugh at Foul. If he had not been explicitly tagged as The Pure One, the ending would have looked like a blatant cheat.

The devil . . . prowde spirite . . . cannot endure to be mocked. — Sir Thomas More.

Least favorite 3?? Thats easy.....LOL
The humbled. BORRRINNGG.....I mean come on. DUHHHHHH! I hated them right off.
Then there is LIAND. Can you say PUPPY DOG? Sit boo boo. Sit. Stay. Run....blah blah blah. If your life is that comprimised, go buy a razor blade.
Then the last, is ESMER. Good gawd....all I can think is "Land shark, land shark....everyone in the water!" blah blah blah. If your that miserable, follow Liands example. LOL
I am of course, blaming this on the caffeine......LOL

Sheriff Litton - what an ignorant fool!!

My least favorite character?

I honestly don't have any.
I was EXTREMELY angry with, and EXTREMELY frustrated with, Thomas Covenant in the first Chronicles. Yet, I can't say he was my least favorite character.
I would have liked to have seen him TORTURED for what he did to Lena, but I can't say he's my least favorite.

Don't worry! I always got the feeling TC was tortured beyond belief for what he did to Lena. The consequences were incalculably far reaching - from the destruction of Lena's family, to the birth and corruptibility of Elena, to the breaking of the Law of Death which made the Sunbane and the Banefire possible! The responsibility for all these terrible, tragic, heinous events were rammed down Covenant's throat in a huge way. He knew it was all his fault and the entire epic story is the story of a man being torn apart by both his ACTIONS and his INACTIONS. Both belief and unbelief were unacceptable...as were action and inaction, guilt and inncocence. All unbearable, all choices TC was continuously torn between as a result of the rape and Foul's machinations.

He was tortured, all right!

Well said.

I think Lord Foul. He's so overimpressed with himself, but he has such dumb aimless goals really. If Lord Foul completely conquers and destroys and violates the Land.... does that motivate the creator fellow to free him from the arch of time? If he managed to perpetually create hardship, without destroying anyone, that'd probably acheive his goals much better, but he doesn't seem to get that.

Thomas Covenant for at least the first two books of the first trilogy. I'm trying to find a hardcopy of wounded land, so I still haven't reread the second trilogy. I'm not convinced that his need to deny belief in the land is really enough of an excuse not to be nice to the people in his "delusion". Granted, at the end of The Illearth War, and The Power that Preserves....you felt more compassion for him as he suffered in the real world, and realised the consequences of his actions in the land.

The Haruchai for the most part in Runes of the Earth are very irritating. So they realise that they can't live up to their own expectations, their response is.... to make sure no one else can live up to theirs?


off topic:

Of course what I like about Runes is that it's social commentary to me... but not a tunnel vision kind, not a sarcastic kind, but simply one that explores what might become of all the people of the modern world...and what might result from their interactions.

Not necessarily the author's intent, I'm just saying that's how I read it from my frame of reference.

p.s. the jherrinin I think where meant as the cherry on top, for Covenant to realise even the most maligned in the land were counting on him taking his responsability seriously. One of the sadder moments in the stories was the jherrinin weaping when Covenant said that he wasn't their savior.

in all truth, I like the jherrinin.