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How did you do?

Aced it, my son.
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17%
Failed it, and that doesn't surprise me
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25%
Didn't know as much as I thought
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17%
Would've done better if it hadn't been so biased
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42%
 
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funny, same conversation over at the three seas board.

forum.three-seas.com/viewtopic.php?p=6407#6407
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Lord Mhoram wrote: So as you can see St Paul's writings are open to interpretation. Christ himself, according to the Gospels, never mentions homosexuality.
www.rotten.com/library/sex/sodomy/bible/
Of course, there's the whole question of what Jesus would've thought of what Paul made out of his teachings.

I can never quite get the image of the manic streetpreacher from "Last Temptation" out of my head...
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*grin* Edge and Cyberweez, you two took the words out of my mouth (I'd even just gathered my reference for Paul's vision in Acts 10 before I noticed there was a third page to this discussion)
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Lord Mhoram wrote: So as you can see St Paul's writings are open to interpretation. Christ himself, according to the Gospels, never mentions homosexuality.
www.rotten.com/library/sex/sodomy/bible/
Of course, there's the whole question of what Jesus would've thought of what Paul made out of his teachings.

I can never quite get the image of the manic streetpreacher from "Last Temptation" out of my head...
Good thing the Bible's not depending on "Last Temptation" for its view of Paul...

Paul's writings were included in the Biblical canon for a reason.
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Iryssa,
Paul's writings were included in the Biblical canon for a reason.
Yes and that reason is St. Paul effectively brought Christianity to the Gentiles and was aggressively able to expand the religion. That doesn't mean Christ would have agreed with everything he said.
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Iryssa wrote:Paul's writings were included in the Biblical canon for a reason.
For Constantine's reasons, or Christ's?
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Psh, don't look at me; I can't see into Constantine's motives. I've never seen anything in Paul's writings that I can't find legitimate reasons for, though.
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Sure, and the goal of most of Pauls writings was to standardize the practices of the various Christian churches.

And as for Constantine, he had the same goal: One God, One Church, One Empire. Of course, the fact that he didn't actually join the church he'd created until he was on his deathbed is pretty telling... Especially since the Bible we have now was edited to suit his needs!
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Plissken,

Indeed. We can thank Constantine I for our Sunday Sabbath - the day of worship for his personal deity, Apollo.

He could not make himself out to be a Christian because he claimed to be the son of Apollo himself, IIRC.
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Always strange to think how the motives of humans have had such profound and significant impacts on something that many people take to be some irreducible message from god.

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Very true, and eloquently said. :)
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