Graphic Novels

Post by **Avatar** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:41 am

No reason to throw it away though. I keep even the stuff I've done that I thought was crap. You never know, there might be something salvageable in it.

--A

Post by **Loredoctor** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:26 pm

With a line like "I prophesise a great and terrible war to overtake us" I think that invalidates it!

Post by **dANdeLION** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:47 pm

Sounds like a Lucas line....so just CGI an Ewok over it!

Post by **lucimay** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:45 pm

jwaneeta wrote:
Lucimay wrote:i know it wasn't a critical success but i like Constantine too.
Dude, I count myself a traitor but I freaking bought Constantine. You never know.

i bought it too!

Post by **jwaneeta** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:48 pm

Lucimay wrote:i bought it too!

It had heart. It was hideously miscast and all, but the storyline had heart. I'm a sucker for that kind of thing.

Post by **sgt.null** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:03 pm

Lore: try this line instead...

"I prophesise a great and terrible war shall overtake us"

and book salvaged. i expect a 5% cut now.

Post by **jwaneeta** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:11 am

Matrixman wrote:Whoa! you don't mess around, jwaneeta!

Thank you.

I knew I had to get the book after reading exactly those first 8 pages while in the store. The cinematic quality of the art was mesmerizing.

The scripts must have been seriously daunting for the penciler - so many visual clues, gags and puns on every page, and all of them had to be placed just so. Man, what a job of work for Gibbons. And it all had to look rock solid, no impressionist jazz or shortcuts, because the art had to sustain the gritty noir feel of the prose from start to finish. Bless.

Too tired right now. More thoughts later. Hurm...

Pretty please?

Post by **sgt.null** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:05 pm

well i checked out a bunch of the Ultimate Spider Man from the library and really enjoyed them. they seemed better than the current Spider stories. though I do like how he is written in the New Avengers.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:56 am

Lucimay wrote:Road To Perdition is one of my favorites. Sin City, of course. i really liked Spawn. was that a graphic novel or a comic?

Actually, most of the things we're talking about weren't graphic novels. Watchmen, Sandman, and Kingdom Come, for example, were all multiple-issue stories that were reprinted in the graphic novels format. Dark Knight Returns might be something of a hybrid? It was originally four issues, but each issue was bigger than the typical comic - more pages and heavier paper.

I guess the question is: Does it matter? Are the actual graphic novels different in any way? I guess not. My favorites are Star Slammers (My god, what a great one!!), The Death of Captain Marvel, and God Loves, Man Kills (an X-Man story). But I don't think anything sets them apart from the multi-issue reprints. Anybody else?

jwaneeta wrote:He knows right where to go, what to look for. He hits the hidden button and discovers a cache the detectives missed:...

I'm gonna have to argue this point. He thought the depth of the closet looked wrong. To confirm this, he used his arm to measure it from the outside and on the inside. Realizing the back of the closet was much too thick to be a board, he looked around until he found the button.

Post by **jwaneeta** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:02 am

Clumsy writing on my part.

I was just trying to emphasize the fact that it was a button leading to a clue, just like the button in the gutter did. So many round shapes in these first pages alone. Makes me a little giddy.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:19 am

Giddy is good.

Post by **sgt.null** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:12 pm

well my favorite graphic novels started out as miniseries: Kingdom Come and the Golden Age. I like the bonus material included in Kingdom Come. helps detail the story so much better.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:25 am

Well, the graphic novel is gone.

Post by **spacemonkey** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:44 am

No it isn't. They are still in very high demand. Being new to this thread I have a massive collection of the Spawn Graphic novels, as well as tons of the original comics. The graphic novels are better, darker, more savage. There are a number of other Japanese graphic novels that translate well....Vampire Hunter is one, many others as well.....

Post by **sgt.null** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:43 am

i believe he was refering to a graphic novel he had owned but did not enjoy.

Post by **spacemonkey** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:45 am

Oh, well, in that case I'll shut up......

Post by **sgt.null** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:55 am

is ok.

another fine graphic novel, about important stuff is Maus.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus_(graphic_novel)

Post by **spacemonkey** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:06 am

I read thru the wiki article on Maus.....very sad. I couldn't watch Schindler's list without crying my eyes out. I imagine this would be the same. The holocaust is something I really Have a hard time with, it's hard to imagine a human being could do something like that to another....I know it's the truth, but the level evil is vastly mind-boggling....

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:10 pm

I couldn't take Schindler's List. My wife and I walked out in the middle. I think it's a great movie. I believe it's important for all to know it happened, and I think the movie drove the point home in ways books can't. But I can't deal with it myself. I can't take that kind of brutality. I'll probably never watch Mel Gibson's Passion movie either.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:24 pm

sgtnull wrote:i believe he was refering to a graphic novel he had owned but did not enjoy.

I'm referring to the graphic novel I was writing and illustrating. It's burned.

Kevin's Watch

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Graphic Novels