I listened to Mahler's 9th for the first time in a while last night. I like it, although I wouldn't rank it up with the 1st or the 5th.Lord Foul wrote:Currently, my favorite symphony is Mahler's 9th.
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Well, no one answered that question - so I will answer it myself.
YES!!!
It is wonderful to hear it live.
And for whatever reason - maybe the great program notes, maybe the short lecture the guest conductor (James Conlon) gave about the music before the concert - I now have such a better grasp on what this music is all about. This is one of those I didn't really "get" (sort of like Beethoven's Third before Matrixman did such a great job explaining it).
The Detroit Symphony Orchestra kicked serious ass with this music. The guy behind me was so excited at the end of the first movement he yelled "WOW!!!!" really loudly. I don't think he meant to, I think it just spontaneously errupted from his mouth, because he turned all red right after, but the conductor and the musicians all got big smiles on their faces.
They had an opera singer from Sweden named Birgitta Svenden sing the solos. She had this wonderful, rich voice. Lovely, just lovely.
And I was very pleased with my husband's reaction. He can take or leave most classical music, though he is partial to Beethoven. But he really liked this. He was the first person in the audience to stand up and start yelling and clapping at the end. He loved the first movement, especially the tuba and trombone solos.
The way the conductor explained the music is that Mahler was writing a large and profound novel, and each of his symphonies is a chapter in his life's work. Titan tells the story of youth, of finding out that life isn't all that easy after all, and getting pissed about that, and triumphing anyway. Ressurrection is about death and ressurrection, and asks some serious questions about both those and traditional Christian beliefs. With the Third, Mahler asks serious questions about CREATION.
The first movement describes a world ready for life, with mountains and volcanos and tetonic plates - but it is frozen. The orchestra has to unfreeze it, with the arrival of the Greek god Pan and his band of ragtag musicians.
With Pan comes life and the arrival of summer.
The second movement describes vegeatation, then the third movement goes on to describing animals. Both involve struggle against the elements and for survival.
The fourth movement moves on to humans, and to the profundity of both human grief and human joy.
O Man! Take heed!
What says the deep midnight?
"I slept, I slept -
from a deep dream have I woken -
the world is deep,
and more deeply pondered than the day.
Deep is its pain-
Joy, depper still than heartache.
Pain says: Pass away!
But all joy seeks eternity -
- seeks deep, deep eternity!"
The brief fifth movement is about angels, represented by the women's and children's choirs.
Three angels sang a sweet song,
with blessed joy it rand in heaven.
They shouted too for joy
that Peter was free from sin!
And as Lord jesus sat at the table
with his twelve disciples and ate the evening meal,
Lord Jesus said: "Why do you stand here?
When I look at you, you weep for me!"
"And should I not weep, kind God?
I have violated the Ten Commanments!
I wander and weep bitterly!
O Come and take pity on me!"
"If you have violated the Ten Commandments,
then fall on your knees and pray to God!
Love only God for all time!
So will you gain heavenly joy!"
The heavenly joy is a blessed city,
the heavenly joy that has no end!
The heavenly joy was granted to Peter
through Jesus, and to all mankind for eternal bliss.
After the angels comes the final movement - What Love Tells Me. Love is the pinnacle of all creation.Themes briefly explored in earlier movements come back as the music slowly swells to a higher and higher spiritual realm.
YES!!!
It is wonderful to hear it live.
And for whatever reason - maybe the great program notes, maybe the short lecture the guest conductor (James Conlon) gave about the music before the concert - I now have such a better grasp on what this music is all about. This is one of those I didn't really "get" (sort of like Beethoven's Third before Matrixman did such a great job explaining it).
The Detroit Symphony Orchestra kicked serious ass with this music. The guy behind me was so excited at the end of the first movement he yelled "WOW!!!!" really loudly. I don't think he meant to, I think it just spontaneously errupted from his mouth, because he turned all red right after, but the conductor and the musicians all got big smiles on their faces.
They had an opera singer from Sweden named Birgitta Svenden sing the solos. She had this wonderful, rich voice. Lovely, just lovely.
And I was very pleased with my husband's reaction. He can take or leave most classical music, though he is partial to Beethoven. But he really liked this.
He was the first person in the audience to stand up and start yelling and clapping at the end. He loved the first movement, especially the tuba and trombone solos. The way the conductor explained the music is that Mahler was writing a large and profound novel, and each of his symphonies is a chapter in his life's work. Titan tells the story of youth, of finding out that life isn't all that easy after all, and getting pissed about that, and triumphing anyway. Ressurrection is about death and ressurrection, and asks some serious questions about both those and traditional Christian beliefs. With the Third, Mahler asks serious questions about CREATION.
The first movement describes a world ready for life, with mountains and volcanos and tetonic plates - but it is frozen. The orchestra has to unfreeze it, with the arrival of the Greek god Pan and his band of ragtag musicians.
With Pan comes life and the arrival of summer.The second movement describes vegeatation, then the third movement goes on to describing animals. Both involve struggle against the elements and for survival.
The fourth movement moves on to humans, and to the profundity of both human grief and human joy.
O Man! Take heed!
What says the deep midnight?
"I slept, I slept -
from a deep dream have I woken -
the world is deep,
and more deeply pondered than the day.
Deep is its pain-
Joy, depper still than heartache.
Pain says: Pass away!
But all joy seeks eternity -
- seeks deep, deep eternity!"
The brief fifth movement is about angels, represented by the women's and children's choirs.
Three angels sang a sweet song,
with blessed joy it rand in heaven.
They shouted too for joy
that Peter was free from sin!
And as Lord jesus sat at the table
with his twelve disciples and ate the evening meal,
Lord Jesus said: "Why do you stand here?
When I look at you, you weep for me!"
"And should I not weep, kind God?
I have violated the Ten Commanments!
I wander and weep bitterly!
O Come and take pity on me!"
"If you have violated the Ten Commandments,
then fall on your knees and pray to God!
Love only God for all time!
So will you gain heavenly joy!"
The heavenly joy is a blessed city,
the heavenly joy that has no end!
The heavenly joy was granted to Peter
through Jesus, and to all mankind for eternal bliss.
After the angels comes the final movement - What Love Tells Me. Love is the pinnacle of all creation.Themes briefly explored in earlier movements come back as the music slowly swells to a higher and higher spiritual realm.
Love as thou wilt.
Excellent summary, duchess! Glad you got to experience this symphony in concert. It was performed here a couple of years ago, but I was unable to attend. Oh well. That's life. My CDs will have to keep me warm.
I agree, good program notes and a conductor who takes the time to "dissect" the music for the audience definitely help make the classical concert experience worthwhile. I know that sometimes symphony concerts can be pretty stuffy and joyless affairs. Our conductor during the '90s, Bramwell Tovey, was an engaging personality who made classical music fun.
I agree, good program notes and a conductor who takes the time to "dissect" the music for the audience definitely help make the classical concert experience worthwhile. I know that sometimes symphony concerts can be pretty stuffy and joyless affairs. Our conductor during the '90s, Bramwell Tovey, was an engaging personality who made classical music fun.
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Oh, I'm glad you guys have a good conductor. We do not have one right now in Detroit - our maestro retired so we've been having a series of guest conductors - but the two concerts I went to this year were both simply fantastic.
One cute thing about the concert was that one of the violinists was hugely (she looked to be full term) with child. We had seats fairly close up, and you could see the baby jump every now and then at a dramatic moment in the music. Calibaby and I both figured that kid has no choice but to be a mucial genius from being exposed to so much great stuff while still in the womb.
We do not have one right now in Detroit - our maestro retired so we've been having a series of guest conductors - but the two concerts I went to this year were both simply fantastic. One cute thing about the concert was that one of the violinists was hugely (she looked to be full term) with child.
We had seats fairly close up, and you could see the baby jump every now and then at a dramatic moment in the music. Calibaby and I both figured that kid has no choice but to be a mucial genius from being exposed to so much great stuff while still in the womb. Love as thou wilt.