Orlion wrote:It's more than that! We're fighting over Fist's soul! (such as it is).aliantha wrote:Sounds like the stage is set for a Watch Steel-Cage Death Match over Gormenghast.
What fantasy/science fiction book are you reading RIGHT NOW?
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It's funny. Based on posts here, I've never known anyone whose world view came so very close to mine the way Av's does. I've read posts of his that I assumed I had written, then noticed it was one of his. And yet, I've come to largely ignore his book advice. Canticles... Illuminati... something else I can't remember off hand. Go figure.
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Wait...is that "A Canticle for Leibowitz" and The Illuminatus! Trilogy?"Fist and Faith wrote: Canticles... Illuminati... something else I can't remember off hand.
What IS wrong with your soul???
I probably will go along with O and do Gor., put off Malazan till spring/summer. I read the first chapter of Titus and it feels more like my winter mood.
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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I agree with A.A. Milne.
(the un-misquoted version.)
There are so many great quotes I don't know exist.
Thank you.
Currently reading "The Sundering Flood," thanks to someone who posted a link to a "10 most (something) fantasy stories of all time" webpage...
..in a thread somewhere around here, I think.
...well, and thanks to whoever went to the effort of writing that article that was linked to.
(the un-misquoted version.)
There are so many great quotes I don't know exist.
Thank you.
Currently reading "The Sundering Flood," thanks to someone who posted a link to a "10 most (something) fantasy stories of all time" webpage...
..in a thread somewhere around here, I think.
...well, and thanks to whoever went to the effort of writing that article that was linked to.
"People without hope not only don't write novels, but what is more to the point, they don't read them.
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
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No worries, I agree strongly with the correct quote as wellLinah Heartlistener wrote:I agree with A.A. Milne.
(the un-misquoted version.)
It's gotten to the point where there is a small list of books that I try not to mention, for if my friends were to read and not like them, we could not be friends anymore
It is a good winter mood book! The first time I read it, I was in Utah for my brother's wedding...V wrote:I probably will go along with O and do Gor., put off Malazan till spring/summer. I read the first chapter of Titus and it feels more like my winter mood.
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Yup. That's the very crap I'm talking about. I quit Leibowitz part way into the second part of the book. One or two hundred pages of profoundly ignorant people looking at books and electrical diagrams, not knowing what any of it is, much less what it says. It's exactly like the seagull in The Little Mermaid. Except the seagull is supposed to be a joke. Enough of my life wasted.Vraith wrote:Wait...is that "A Canticle for Leibowitz" and The Illuminatus! Trilogy?"Fist and Faith wrote: Canticles... Illuminati... something else I can't remember off hand.
What IS wrong with your soul???
Probably nothing wrong with Illuminatus. Just not my kind of thing. I have fun joking around with a guy at work about Whitney Houston having been killed by the Illuminati, but that's as much involvement with that whole thing as I care for.
And if there's any fantasy or scifi fun about either of them, I didn't see it.
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The first thing that came to mind was Grant Naylor's Red Dwarf novelizations (Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers and such) - they seem to be out of print, but that's not much of an obstacle in this day and age.Frostheart Grueburn wrote:
I may have gyrated too much in the Malazan vortex of intrigue and massive battles lately, but craving either for something grittier or just plain silly (akin to Discworld in space; yes I've read Douglas Adams...).
Edit: That may have been a lie. The only version on Kindle is in German. I downloaded a sample to see if I could muddle through it, and nope. I used to be able to muddle through Star Trek in German, perhaps it's time for a marathon...
Edit2: Amazon believes that Diana Gabaldon is a good recommendation for people who read Red Dwarf in German. The robots will not be taking over today.
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Err confusing how? I have the Stormlight Archive ONLY on audio; one of my favorite readers dramatizes the story.Orlion wrote:I liked The Way of Kings, but I imagine Wildling is listening to the audio... which I imagine would be confusing!Rawedge Rim wrote:So far the Way of Kings has been an outstanding setWildling wrote:Finished Reckoners 2 and have started The Way of Kings: Book One of The Stormlight Archive.
Man, am I ever having a hard time getting into this one. It's jumping all over the place and I'm having a hard time giving a damn about finding out WTF is going on.
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I only imagine it would be so, what with the bunching around, quotes at the beginning of the chapter, interludes, etc. But I also have only listened to one audiobook in my life time, so I probably just suck at listening to audiobooksFrostheart Grueburn wrote:Err confusing how? I have the Stormlight Archive ONLY on audio; one of my favorite readers dramatizes the story.Orlion wrote:I liked The Way of Kings, but I imagine Wildling is listening to the audio... which I imagine would be confusing!Rawedge Rim wrote: So far the Way of Kings has been an outstanding set
'Tis dream to think that Reason can
Govern the reasoning creature, man.
- Herman Melville
I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all!
"All creation is a huge, ornate, imaginary, and unintended fiction; if it could be deciphered it would yield a single shocking word."
-John Crowley
Govern the reasoning creature, man.
- Herman Melville
I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all!
"All creation is a huge, ornate, imaginary, and unintended fiction; if it could be deciphered it would yield a single shocking word."
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It helps with Illuminatus if you remember the '60s. And it's better if you lived through the '60s but *don't* remember them.
Sorus wrote:Edit2: Amazon believes that Diana Gabaldon is a good recommendation for people who read Red Dwarf in German. The robots will not be taking over today.
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I think it also helps if you are welling to wade through hundreds of pages of nonsense... I mean, talk about padding!aliantha wrote:It helps with Illuminatus if you remember the '60s. And it's better if you lived through the '60s but *don't* remember them.
I still need to finish the third book. I set it aside to focus on The One True Author and have not really returned to it since.
I think Amazon is trying to push product based on potential new popular shows... it also shows that there may be no robots involved in the recommendation process at all!Sorus wrote:Edit2: Amazon believes that Diana Gabaldon is a good recommendation for people who read Red Dwarf in German. The robots will not be taking over today.
'Tis dream to think that Reason can
Govern the reasoning creature, man.
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"All creation is a huge, ornate, imaginary, and unintended fiction; if it could be deciphered it would yield a single shocking word."
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Govern the reasoning creature, man.
- Herman Melville
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Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all!
"All creation is a huge, ornate, imaginary, and unintended fiction; if it could be deciphered it would yield a single shocking word."
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Uhh, well, I was more assuming that he was using hyperbole..Orlion wrote:No worries, I agree strongly with the correct quote as well
It's gotten to the point where there is a small list of books that I try not to mention, for if my friends were to read and not like them, we could not be friends anymore
I'm not that extreme.
Though there is this one work of fiction I love for which I seem to get the response of, "I didn't get it." from people.
I am always at a loss for how or where I would begin to explain it. (I basically don't try.)
But I inevitably feel distanced from the person who confessed to not understanding it.
I don't see the connection to winter... Is the link the discussion of Cretans? Makes you think of the culture adjustment one makes for a vacation to Crete? And people go to Crete in the winter because the Mediterranean is warm?vraith wrote:I read the first chapter of Titus and it feels more like my winter mood.
Or is it a sort of wintry despair that sets in because of the dark deeds of the aforementioned false teachers?
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You mean the work of fiction people keep telling me they don't understand?
"People without hope not only don't write novels, but what is more to the point, they don't read them.
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
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More of that, kinda. The opening of the thing [which is all I've read now] gives both a feeling of endless size and endurance combined to create total confinement/imprisonment/permanent claustrophobication.Linah Heartlistener wrote: Or is it a sort of wintry despair
That's winter for me.
On a side note/oddness [this happens to me with books sometimes...and I don't like it, really].
I am POSITIVE I read at least the first one, and I think the first 2, before.
I am SURE I had thoughts about it, liking it---I specifically recall thinking something like "This is kinda what "Edwin Drood" would feel like if Dickens knew how to write."
But so far, I don't remember a single word/incident/scene reading now having been read before. Complete blank/unfamiliarity.
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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The Dickens comparison is often made, Peake also influenced other writers in at least some of their books... such as the one I am currently reading: Perdido Street Station by China Mieville!Vraith wrote:More of that, kinda. The opening of the thing [which is all I've read now] gives both a feeling of endless size and endurance combined to create total confinement/imprisonment/permanent claustrophobication.Linah Heartlistener wrote: Or is it a sort of wintry despair
That's winter for me.
On a side note/oddness [this happens to me with books sometimes...and I don't like it, really].
I am POSITIVE I read at least the first one, and I think the first 2, before.
I am SURE I had thoughts about it, liking it---I specifically recall thinking something like "This is kinda what "Edwin Drood" would feel like if Dickens knew how to write."
But so far, I don't remember a single word/incident/scene reading now having been read before. Complete blank/unfamiliarity.
It also "unconsciously" influenced Donaldson's Mordant's Need... but I do not think your deja vu is related to that.
'Tis dream to think that Reason can
Govern the reasoning creature, man.
- Herman Melville
I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all!
"All creation is a huge, ornate, imaginary, and unintended fiction; if it could be deciphered it would yield a single shocking word."
-John Crowley
Govern the reasoning creature, man.
- Herman Melville
I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all!
"All creation is a huge, ornate, imaginary, and unintended fiction; if it could be deciphered it would yield a single shocking word."
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That's priceless.Vraith wrote:I specifically recall thinking something like "This is kinda what "Edwin Drood" would feel like if Dickens knew how to write."
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linna wrote:Or is it a sort of wintry despair that sets in because of the dark deeds of the aforementioned false teachers?
wacky.Vraith wrote:More of that, [well, just "a sort of wintry despair, " actually. -Ed] kinda. The opening of the thing [which is all I've read now] gives both a feeling of endless size and endurance combined to create total confinement/imprisonment/permanent claustrophobication.
That's winter for me.
On a side note/oddness [this happens to me with books sometimes...and I don't like it, really].
I am POSITIVE I read at least the first one, and I think the first 2, before.
I am SURE I had thoughts about it, liking it---I specifically recall thinking something like "This is kinda what "Edwin Drood" would feel like if Dickens knew how to write."
But so far, I don't remember a single word/incident/scene reading now having been read before. Complete blank/unfamiliarity.
Also, I've pinpointed the source of my earlier apparent confusion.
I was thinking of a diff. "Titus, Chapter 1."
You guys are still talking about some fantasy book on this thread or something, aren't you?