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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:26 pm
by Fist and Faith
Well said, dlb. I was struggling to think of how to say it. As though we weren't fond of Edge as it was! Brian, fantastic job with these two av's!!!
I'm forced to admit that Stephen's journal entries don't have the same drama for me as they used to. The thing is, I'm just not worried about him. "Is that your only answer?" indeed! Or maybe, "Is that the best you can do?" Don't make me laugh, Harold. Stephen gets physically ill when Harold's around, so it's worse for him than for me. For me, I just see an angry guy wasting his time trying to knock down a mountain with hammer.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:33 pm
by Edge
Thank you.
I just wanted to say something about the faint text on Isaiah's avatar. When I was busy making it, I had the impulse to look up the meaning of his name - and I was so struck by it I had to use it in the av: "salvation of the Lord".
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:52 pm
by Fist and Faith
Extremely cool, Edge. And appropriate. When Isaiah started posting here, and chatting with us, he said things about not believing, and anger regarding religious matters. But it was also obvious that he wanted his faith restored. He felt one way, but had been taught - by some horrible people - another way. I was so glad that he met Tracie, so he could feel whole again. He learned a new kind of God and a new kind of love, and I'm sure he felt salvation.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:56 pm
by Furls Fire
I love the avs. LOVE THEM! And I'm sure both Stephen and Isaiah would have loved them too. The way you superimposed Stephen's face into the background of his av just stopped my heart. I'm an emotional mess right now because it touched me so deeply. You captured my brother's essence with that av, Brian. You truly did.
I tell myself, "it's silly to get all weepy over an avatar for a message board." But, you know, it's more than that. Because Stephen's presence here is so overwhelming.
And Brian, I love that hymn. Thank you so much for posting it here.
Eric, I have one more entry to share about Harold, but in that one Stephen doesn't talk to him. It's an entry he wrote after he found out Harold commited suicide. It's not a "good" entry, because in it, Stephen is very hard on himself for "failing" Harold and God. When I said Harold almost cost Stephen his faith, this is the entry I was talking about. I will type it up soon.
Peace

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:00 pm
by Furls Fire
Fist and Faith wrote:Extremely cool, Edge. And appropriate. When Isaiah started posting here, and chatting with us, he said things about not believing, and anger regarding religious matters. But it was also obvious that he wanted his faith restored. He felt one way, but had been taught - by some horrible people - another way. I was so glad that he met Tracie, so he could feel whole again. He learned a new kind of God and a new kind of love, and I'm sure he felt salvation.
That he did. It was Stephen who restored his faith. And the love he felt here. When I brought him here, it was like a long lost member of our family was finally home. We had such a short time with him. But in that time, years of lonliness and sadness and self-loathing were melted away. He found love and peace and the Father. And passed on with a full heart.

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:09 pm
by duchess of malfi
Joy is in the ears that hear.
And Shadow's story was and is beautiful, and filled with profound joy.

Whenever I think of him, I feel a mixture of that profound joy -- of a man who found his family and friends -- and great sorrow over losing him all too soon.
And there can never be enough mere words to describe Stephen.
Edge's avatars are fantastic, and fit those two wonderful men very well.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:06 am
by variol son
Thank you very much for such a wonderful contribution to this wonderful place Edge.
Sum sui generis
Vs
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:11 pm
by Furls Fire
Isaiah's doesn't seem to be working

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:47 am
by variol son
That's odd. I can still see it.
Sum sui generis
Vs
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:16 am
by Avatar
As I've mentioned elsewhere, I've tended to avoid this thread. Not for any particular reason, save that it seemed such a personal thing between those Members who were fortunate enough to know Stephen.
However, clicking randomly the other day, I happened across those two journal entries that Furls posted most recently, and I'm struck by a passing thought. Please bear in mind that I have not read back to find other references to "Harold", but nonetheless, I'll share my thought.
It seems to me that perhaps Stephen had not realised that as much as he felt he was being tested by this person, or by god, or satan in the form of this person perhaps, Harold was also testing himself against Stephen. He was measuring his own strength, of his convictions, of his lack of faith, against those of Stephen. In the end, it was not Stephen who failed, but Harold.
Nobody can steal someones faith, or their hope. They can be taken only after despair causes surrender.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:23 am
by variol son
I need to re-read the whole thread again, so I cannot really respond to your comment about Stephen and Harold.
However I will say this: please do not be wary of coming here. Neither Fist nor duchess nor I knew Stephen. In fact, the only two members who did are Furls Fire and Fire Daughter.
Yet something of Stephen's story, and Isaiah's, has captured me, and many others as well. I invite you to take this journey with us and get to know Stephen, even if only in part, as we have done.
Sum sui generis
Vs
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:27 am
by Avatar
*bows smiling*
Thanks Vs, might just take you up on that.
--A
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:09 pm
by Furls Fire
Welcome here Avatar
As Luke has said, no one here actually "knew" Stephen until I started mentioning him. He passed on in Sept of 2001 after a long battle with AIDS.
Something compelled me to start sharing his journal here. I've come to realize that it was Stephen himself who guided me to do it. Isaiah alone lifts any doubt of that. "In the beginning" (hehehe) I started a thread here called "Some of my brother's writings" (just a thread or two below this one). The few poems and journal entries I posted there invoked so much emotional response from everyone that it was suggested I create an ID for him and start posting them under his name. I did this and then created this beautiful thread. It's been here over a year now. Growing at a rate that still astounds me. SRD himself has been here.
All are welcome here, Avatar. Stephen is my gift to the Watch. And as you get to know him, you will understand what a gift he was to this world. And my family was the blessed one God gave him too.
And Harold, sigh, Harold was not a test God sent to him. Harold was a tool sent by Satan to do him in and Stephen knew this. Harold did fail, but Stephen came away from it wounded. It took him a while to acknowlege he did all he could. It was this encounter that shaped the way Stephen helped others, like Nathan.
Peace

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:16 pm
by Avatar
Furls Fire wrote:Peace
Always.
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 2:17 pm
by Fire Daughter
You're in a better place, I've heard a thousand times
And at least a thousand times I've rejoiced for you
But the reason why I'm broken, the reason why I cry
Is how long must I wait to be with you.
In Christ, there are no goodbye
And in Christ, there is no end
So I'll hold onto Jesus with all that I have
Until I see you again.
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:40 pm
by Furls Fire
Here's a new pic of Stevie, 6 months old tomorrow!!
What gifts the Lord bestows

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:50 pm
by Gadget nee Jemcheeta
Gah, that child is almost too adorable to bear!

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:11 pm
by duchess of malfi
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:19 pm
by Furls Fire
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:16 pm
by The Leper Fairy
Awwwwww!
