Kevin's Watch

Have we really seen the last of it? Will its torn remnants return in Fatal Revenant, or have they already in Runes as one of Anele's possessors?

The Law of death is broken. The Law of Time is broken. All things are possible. As for his being as a part of Aneles possiesiions...I doubt it. Linden would have felt it with her health sense.

I predict that when sandgorgons are brought back into the story, the effects of Sheol's rending will be all too clear.

dlbpharmd wrote:I predict that when sandgorgons are brought back into the story, the effects of Sheol's rending will be all too clear.

Elaborate. I am interested in what you are supposing here. Especially since the laws of deathe and time are both broken. What up?

This is pure speculation:

Spoiler

Nom was changed dramatically after consuming Sheol, and we know that he intended to release the other sandgorgons from the Doom. Obviously I don't know yet what those sandgorgons have been up to since then....but what if one of them was responsible for releasing Kastanessen? Or, what if a sandgorgon made a deal with a croyel and is now threatening the Land in some way? Or, perhaps with the knowledge Nom received from Sheol, then sandgorgons have mutated/evolved, and are now known as skurj? I could go on and on, with my point being that however they appear and contribute to the story, it will be obvious that Nom/Sheol will be the reason why they are contributing.

dlbpharmd wrote:This is pure speculation:

Spoiler

Nom was changed dramatically after consuming Sheol, and we know that he intended to release the other sandgorgons from the Doom. Obviously I don't know yet what those sandgorgons have been up to since then....but what if one of them was responsible for releasing Kastanessen? Or, what if a sandgorgon made a deal with a croyel and is now threatening the Land in some way? Or, perhaps with the knowledge Nom received from Sheol, then sandgorgons have mutated/evolved, and are now known as skurj? I could go on and on, with my point being that however they appear and contribute to the story, it will be obvious that Nom/Sheol will be the reason why they are contributing.

I absolutely agree with you! And I have often wondered what happened to them for years. I think you are correct and I can't wait to find out!

dlbpharmd wrote:This is pure speculation

Spoiler

If there is anything to the sandgorgons making an appearance, then it would involve the oath that Covenant made Nom take backfiring somehow. Although how one can screw up "I want it to leave the Bhrathair alone" is anyone's guess.

Hey guys,

Spoiler

Why are these posts spoilered? They are just your speculations based on White Gold Wielder..I think most people who have read Runes Have read WGW

Very true, I'm just a bit apprehensive about such speculation, based on some problems we've had in the past from sensitive Watch members. Better safe than sorry, I suppose.

Yeah people were getting upset over what was and was not spoilered.

Spoiler

Rememeber the whole Insanity Falls incident?

That's exactly what has me so gunshy.

Spoiler

I certainly agree that the rending will have changed Nom, and therefore by implication probably the rest of the sandgogons. Whether they will return, or form part of the story, remains to be seen, although it would be nice and interesting.

--A

I imagine they will return. If for no other reason than one of practicality. They are a fan-favorite are they not?

Interesting points and suggestions all. But to guess what SRD might come up with is folly. Fun folly though it may be!

Rent is not implying that Nom is the ravers Landlord. He's not coming back, he's been removed from the novels. Sandgorgons though... They'll be back from the looks of some of the spoilers I'd say:

Spoiler

The Staff of Law is incomplete and some one is going to have to make the journey again... who better than Berek.. especially if the giants don't make it.

It's possible that Nom was corrupted by having rent shards of samadhi in him. He might not have been able to contain a Raver forever. We'll certainly see either Nom or samadhi again. SRD would never leave that alone.

dlb, the only one of your possibilities that looks wrong right off is sandgorgons becoming skurj. Anele told us that Kastenessen was restraining the skurj in his Durance.

Right, sorry - I forgot about that.

I prefer that that Nom had Sheol for lunch. It's justice.

Burp!!!

*BOOM*

*crunch*

HAH the idea of a Raver being Excrement... can Gorgons fling poo?

Fist and Faith wrote:dlb, the only one of your possibilities that looks wrong right off is sandgorgons becoming skurj. Anele told us that Kastenessen was restraining the skurj in his Durance.

Did he really???

I have been watching this closely in the dissection. So far, skurj has been mentioned, and something finding release from its bonds has been mentioned. No one explicitely said (yet) that the two are the same.

Similarly, we have no real evidence that the skurj are the same as the laval worms Linden saw in her version.

With so many other intentional ambiguities thrown into the story, I am not yet ready to be sure that the skurj are what was released, or that they are the things in Lindens vision. It may be that they are -- but I will remain prudently skeptical.

Also, Foul claimed that the Elohim have done something. Until we know what that is, I don't think we can make too many assumptions about the skurj.