Today marks the 300th anniversary of the Treaty of Union with our neighbours England.
A sad day for many Scots who are campaigning for a referendum to break this Union and be an independant nation again.
One of the things that led to this Union was The Darien project
The Darien Project 1698
The Darien Project was a business venture aimed at setting up a new colony in Panama, or Darien, as it was known. Many Lowland Scots invested in this, buying tracts of land unseen. The actual colony was a disaster, as the rain forest was impossible to clear, and most of the settlers died of disease. The company collapsed with huge debts, leaving many Lowlanders ruined. Many historians suggest that this crisis in the Scottish banks was a precursor to the Act of Union as a way to save the Scots economy.
So, on this sad day, I will be raising a glass of Scotlands finest product (Malt Whisky), and toasting to a swift end to this travesty.
I only hope that this Act is repealed in my lifetime so I don't need to have a passport which says I'm british - Iwant one which states my true nationality - SCOTTISH
A sad birthday for all Scots
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A sad birthday for all Scots
Quote - John Smeaton (Terrorists take note)
"This is Glasgow- we'll just set aboot ye"
"This is Glasgow- we'll just set aboot ye"
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Phantasm, my love. You will never be ANYTHING but a studly sexy SCOTSMAN to me no matter what it says on your passport. I too will tilt a glass of fine whiskey from Scotland in your honor this evening!
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....
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Amen brother.
Yes Jenn, it really does matter.
Yes Jenn, it really does matter.
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I know it matters to him and it's important. I wasn't disrespecting him. I was just trying to convey that in MY mind they are completely different countries and I would never mistake him for being anything but full of Scottish pride....sheesh.
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....
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Thanks Jenn (and Cail, I think 
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The difference in being called British or Scottish is, in my mind, immense.
I would liken it to asking a Canadian you have just met "Where in teh USA do you come from?" - Light blue touch paper and stand well back.
)The difference in being called British or Scottish is, in my mind, immense.
I would liken it to asking a Canadian you have just met "Where in teh USA do you come from?" - Light blue touch paper and stand well back.
Quote - John Smeaton (Terrorists take note)
"This is Glasgow- we'll just set aboot ye"
"This is Glasgow- we'll just set aboot ye"
Absolutely man. I think it sucks that Scotland doesn't have self-rule, and it's gotta blow for you guys to have to look at British passports.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Amen. 
(And - by the way - my in-laws out in California think that Michigan is part of Canada. They cannot get it through their heads that it is part of the US that borders Canada
I know it off the subject, but your post about people mistaking Canadians for Americans reminded me of the first tiME they asked my husband - in front of me - why he had married a Canadian girl AND MOVED OUT OF THE COUNTRY 
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(And - by the way - my in-laws out in California think that Michigan is part of Canada. They cannot get it through their heads that it is part of the US that borders Canada
I know it off the subject, but your post about people mistaking Canadians for Americans reminded me of the first tiME they asked my husband - in front of me - why he had married a Canadian girl AND MOVED OUT OF THE COUNTRY .).
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Love as thou wilt.
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I honestly didn't know that Scottish passports said Britain. I just assumed they would say Scotland. That sucks Phantasm. I hope they reverse it soon. Wanna recommend me a good bottle to get on my way home? I think this occasion deserves a virgin bottle of expensive good stuff.
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....
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No sarcasm, I'm half-Scot (Father's 1st generation US-born).Phantasm wrote:The stench of sarcasm is vaguely annoyingCail wrote:Absolutely man. I think it sucks that Scotland doesn't have self-rule, and it's gotta blow for you guys to have to look at British passports.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Being of Scottish ancestry himself, I do not think that Cail is being sarcastic. I think he is saying that he thinks Scottish people should be free to have their own country if that is what they wish. 
It is certainly the way I feel - why cannot Scotland be independant of Britain if that is what the people who live there want?
It is certainly the way I feel - why cannot Scotland be independant of Britain if that is what the people who live there want?
Love as thou wilt.
Exactly.
Over here there's a fair amount of talk about freedom for Ireland, but no one talks about Scotland.
Over here there's a fair amount of talk about freedom for Ireland, but no one talks about Scotland.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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S'OK, I thought you knew I was Scottish given all my pro-Celtic posts in the Football topics.
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Phantasm love, what's your malt whiskey recommendations.
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....
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Ouch.....Phantasm wrote:Thought that would have made you IrishCail wrote:S'OK, I thought you knew I was Scottish given all my pro-Celtic posts in the Football topics.
Glenmorangie 18 if you like it smooth, Macallan 18 if you like a peppery, casky taste.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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