The Land translated

Post by **emotional leper** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:51 pm

When I get bored, I translate things. Here's the 'Be True, Unbeliever' poem translated (hopefully well) into Latin. I hope this is the right place to stick this.

Fidvs Incredvle Es.
Accitvi Responde
Vita Dator Est
Mors Omnia Terminat
Veritas Promissio Est
Et cvm Promissiodi Tentae
Cladis Disperevnt
Sed Animae Pestis
Fidei Defectaeqve
Nexo Infideli
Qvoniam Fatvm Tenebrarvm
Omnes Saepivnt.

If anyone else speaks any other languages, and is bored (or interested) enough to translate this or other poetry from TCTC, it'd be cool? I'll probably work on some more when I'm bored again.

Post by **emotional leper** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:39 pm

Seven Wards of ancient Lore
For Land's protection, wall and door:
And one High Lord to wield the Law
To keep all uncorrupt Earth's Power core.

Seven Words for ill's despite --
Banes for evil's dooming wight:
And one pure Lord to hold the Staff
To bar the Land from Foul's betraying sight.

Seven hells for failed faith,
For Land's betrayers, man and wraith:
And one brave Lord to deal the doom
To keep the blacking blight from Beauty's bloom.

Horrei Septem de Doctrina Antiqua
Tutelae Terrae, Muroque Ostio
Et Magister Maximus Sole Fas Protendere
Omnia Incorruptosque Fas Terrae Nucleos Servare

Fides Septem ad Mavolentiam Mali
Pestes ad Hominem Damnandum Mali
Et Magister Solusque Castus Scipionem Gerere
Terram ne Visum Prodendum Foedi Prohibere

Inferi Septem ad Fidem Fractae
ad Proditores Terrae, Manes Hominemque
Et Magister Fortis Sole Fatum Icere
Tabem Nigrandam ne Florem Pulchritudinis Prohibere

Is there anything anyone wants to see in particular? I'm guess no?

Post by **lucimay** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:43 pm

wait!! wait!!! me!! *raises hand* i do. continue on oh bored one.

Post by **Astavyastataa Kadna** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:47 pm

Can you translate into Elvish?

Post by **emotional leper** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:19 pm

Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:Can you translate into Elvish?

Qenya, Sindarian, or Noldorian? If you want the language of the Teleri, you're really out of luck.

Post by **emotional leper** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:21 pm

Lucimay wrote:wait!! wait!!! me!! *raises hand* i do. continue on oh bored one.

What did you want?

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:28 pm

"My heart has rooms" from WGW (or did someone do that in Latin once before?)

Post by **emotional leper** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:41 pm

dlbpharmd wrote:"My heart has rooms" from WGW (or did someone do that in Latin once before?)

I shall dig it up and translate it. I don't know if someone has previously.

I intend to do Caer-Caveral's lament from TWL, but it's rather long, and actually, I think, rather beyond my skill to translate correctly, and definately beyond my skill to render in the manner it deserves. That thing makes me frickin' cry.

The other bloody problem with translation is trying to guess what the character was actually getting at, and then finding a suitable word in Latin, 'cause with a language what's been dead for so long, there aren't exact translations for alot of things. The fact that TV is never mentioned has helped alot. Of course, there's no exact translation for the phrase 'In Spite Of (blank)' in latin, nor is there an actual word that translates as 'Despite.' Malevolence, Malice, Cruetly, Hatred, yes, but not Despite. Purely english invention, I hope.

[edit] Found it. I had forgotten how long and beautiful it was. I'll give it a shot.

[edit] I was going to try to render it in Latin/Greek Epic Poetry styling, but I've already given up. Homer was a bloody genius, but he had far more time on his hands.

Post by **emotional leper** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:58 pm

Finally was bored enough to translate the last paragraph.

My heart has rooms that sigh with dust
And ashes in the hearth.
They must be cleaned and blown away
By daylight's breath.
But I cannot essay the task,
For even dust to me is dear;
For dust and ashes still recall,
My love was here

I know not how to say Farewell,
When Farewell is the word
That stays alone for me to say
Or will be heard.
But I cannot speak out that word
Or ever let my loved one go
How can I bear it that these rooms
Are empty so?

I sit among the dust and hope
That dust will cover me.
I stir the ashes in the hearth,
Though cold they be.
I cannot bear to close the door,
To seal my loneliness away
While dust and ashes yet remain
Of my love's day.

Cor Mei Cellas Habet Vt Cvm Pvlvere Svspirat
Et In Foco Cineres
Pvrgandvsqve Flandvs
Ab Avra Lvcis
Sed Non Possvm Pensvm Temptare
Nam Pvlveris Carvs Mihi Vel Est
Nam Cineres Pvlverisqve In Memoriam Adhvnc Redigvnt
Amor Mei Hic Fvit

Modvm Non Scio Dicere Vale
Vt Vale Verbvm Est
Vt Sole Stat mihi dicere
Avt Avdiverit
Sed Non Possvm Verbvm Illvd Dicere
Avt Vmqvam Sino Amorem Mei Ire
Qvomodo Id Possvm Ferre Vt Hae Cellae
Tam Vacvae Svnt

Inter Pvlve Sedeo Et Exspecto
Vt Mihi Pvlvis Teget
Pelvem in Foco Excito
Qvamqvam frigida svnt
Non Possvm Ferre Ivnam Clavdere
Solitvdinem Meam Obsignare
Dvm Pvlveresqve Cineres Adhvnc Svpersvnt
De Die Amoris Mei

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:00 pm

Complete with V's instead of U's too!

Post by **emotional leper** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:29 pm

dlbpharmd wrote:Complete with V's instead of U's too!

[Sean Connery] But in Latin... J is an I...[/Sean Connery]

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:30 pm

[Sean Connery] This must be my lucky day. I'll take "The Rapist" for 200.[Sean Connery}

[Alex Trebek]That's "Therapist."[Alex Trebek]

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The Land translated

The Land translated