Foul's Parting Shot

[sherlock_525]

"Your attempts to oppose me will secure it. The Arch will be torn asunder, and I will reclaim my rightful place among the Eternal Heavens. My enemy will be unable to thwart me. There is more, but of my deeper purpose I will not speak."- Lord Foul the Despiser

is it just me or did anybody else think maybe Foul found some way to get the Creator out of the way? I mean even Linden wondered why the old begger didn't warn her. What's everone else think.

[earthbrah]

It is curious that the Creator did not make an appearance at the beginning of Runes before any translation took place. He did so at the beginning of the First and Second Chronicles. So why not the Last?

Surely there's a reason for it. SRD wouldn't make a slip-up of this magnitude in his last and greatest writing effort with this universe. So yeah, an interesting idea that the Creator has been gotten out of the way. Maybe Foul's deeper purpose is to have his prison recreated into a hell, and then imprison the Creator therein.

[dlbpharmd]

"Your attempts to oppose me will secure it. The Arch will be torn asunder, and I will reclaim my rightful place among the Eternal Heavens. My enemy will be unable to thwart me. There is more, but of my deeper purpose I will not speak."- Lord Foul the Despiser

is it just me or did anybody else think maybe Foul found some way to get the Creator out of the way? I mean even Linden wondered why the old begger didn't warn her. What's everone else think.

I read Foul's statement as supreme confidence - no matter what, he believes this time he will succeed. But, I agree that it's very curious that we haven't seen the Old Beggar, and I think this will be a major plot point in one or both of the next books.

[Skurj Scourge]

I think I remember inthe GI that SRD said something along the lines of Foul would not aid in his own destruction, but the Creator may not have such a moral stricture" Could it be that the Creator realizes that the actual destruction of the AoT is the only was to get rid of Foul...and that it his own destruction is the price he must pay? Perhaps that is why Linden was not warned, or at least given some glimmer of hope from The Man In Ochre.

[earthbrah]

And I heard SRD say in an interview from his site in connection with the Worm of the World's End that any creation must contain the means for its destruction. This thinking could easily extend to the Creator himself. He is the source of the creation, and if he must build into his creation the means for its destruction, then he must have that same means for himself because it stems from him to begin with.

Maybe he's off arranging the internal conditions for ending himself which is why he couldn't bother warning Linden before her coming to the Land this last time...

[A Gunslinger]

The Ochre-wearing beggar will appear...perhaps in the land to witness the final conflict.

[earthbrah]

Appear and witness is about all I see happening from the guy. The freedom of choice demands that he not interfere with his creation. Plus, it's been stated either somewhere in the books or by SRD in answer to a question that a closed system like the Earth/Land cannot be affected by it's creator directly. He will destroy it if he reaches his hand in, so to speak.

[aliensporebomb]

Foul is always certain of himself but notice of his deeper
purposes he doesn't elect to speak. I get the feeling he's
concerned that he may have jinxed himself if he does this.

[wayfriend]

"Your attempts to oppose me will secure it." -- He's telling Linden that whatever she does will be conducive to his ends. Same thing, really, as the Second Chronicles. You are being forged as iron is forged to achieve the ruin of the Earth.

"The Arch will be torn asunder" -- well, that's been the plan from day 1.

"I will reclaim my rightful place among the Eternal Heavens." -- Foul will escape, and he thinks he deserves to escape. Nothing surprising here.

"My enemy will be unable to thwart me." -- I am INVINCIBLE! The only question is, who is the enemy? It is still the Creator, as it has always been, or is it the Timewarden?

"There is more, but of my deeper purpose I will not speak." -- I'm not telling! The only question here is, does he mean "there is more to my plans to tear the Arch asunder", or does he mean "there is more to what I plan to do when I get out of the Arch". ( He may dying for a really good steak and cheese sub. ) Since he said "deeper" and not "subsequent", I am guessing there is more to his plans to tear the Arch asunder. Yawn.

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Whatever happened to the Creator, Foul didn't do it. If he could have, he would not be trapped.

Either the Creator has sacrificed himself somehow to save the Earth ...

or (since we know the Earth won't be saved) the Creator is not trying to save the Earth any more, and so isn't appearing. That's my bet.

[earthbrah]

Wayfriend wrote:

Either the Creator has sacrificed himself somehow to save the Earth ...

or (since we know the Earth won't be saved) the Creator is not trying to save the Earth any more, and so isn't appearing. That's my bet.

OR, the Creator is off fashioning a new creation, a new prison for Foul. And I'd imagine that making a whole universe requires a little bit of effort, which would keep him from talking to Linden before she was translated to the Land.