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With all the spoiling and rumors of spoiling, I would just like to say that reading FR left me with more questions, than answers. Speculation on future events seems pointless, we aspire to know the mind of the master , and hes not talking till 2010.
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Not really many questions here.... many of the loose ends (and newly introduced ends) were tied at the end of FR, however, I am FULL of speculation after reading FR; speculations about Berek's acquisition of the Staff, the nature of the Haruchai, the destiny of the Sandgorgons, the roles of Anele, Jeremiah, and Liand in regards to the salvation of the land, and so on....
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Future High Lord Liand ?
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Maybe his thing is also going to be to go back to Revelstone to 'free' the Woodhelvennin.
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Something Broken wrote:Future High Lord Liand ?
I think that is exactly what will happen.

Although someone HAS to die right? I mean, t's like the red shirts in the old Star Trek. Someone has to die so the main characters don't.
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Sill wrote:
Something Broken wrote:Future High Lord Liand ?
I think that is exactly what will happen.

Although someone HAS to die right? I mean, t's like the red shirts in the old Star Trek. Someone has to die so the main characters don't.

That's what the Humbled are for....

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Seriously, one of the Humbled will die, and Stave's grief will make it obvious that the three Humbled, are, in fact, Stave's sons.....


Yeah, I said it....


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Bhapa also seems to be a good candidate for "red-shirt" status.
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Relayer wrote:Bhapa also seems to be a good candidate for "red-shirt" status.
Good call. I forgot about him....


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Oh, yeah, for sure red shirt status for Bhapa, and maybe even one or more of the humbled. As to the humbled being Stave's sons, I'll crap my pants if that happens. No, really, it's not that big a deal, I do all the time!
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So T minus 2.5 years and counting..
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But that's the brilliance of confusion, and SRD's power to create it in all of us: it keeps us on our toes, keeps us thinking about what has happened as well was what might happen in light of the past.


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How many of my 100 questions from Runes have been answered?
Wayfriend, in a Runes thread wrote:Prologue
1. What did Joan fail at?
2. Did Roger take Joan’s place in some form?
3. What does Roger refer to when he speaks of Joan “bearing it”?
4. Why can Roger so influence Joan’s condition?
5. Is there a significance to Roger’s attending medical school, or being a butcher?
6. Why did Roger want Haven Farm?
7. Is Roger possessed by a Raver?
8. What is the cause of Jeremiah’s ‘disorder’?
9. What is the significance of Jeremiah’s construction ability?
10. What is the significance of Jeremiah’s missing fingers?
11. What is the significance of the race track and the red race car?
12. Has Jeremiah been to or seen the Land prior to his summons?
13. How did Roger know so much about Jeremiah?
14. What did Sheriff Lytton do to Joan in the police car years ago?
15. Is Sheriff Lytton complicit in Foul’s plans?
16. Does Sherrif Lytton appear again in the story?
17. Is Sandy complicit in Foul’s plans?
18. Does Sandy appear again in the story?
19. Why does Roger take and then slaughter Sara Clint?
20. What happened in Haven Farm that bloodied the halls?
21. Who shot Linden Avery?
22. Why was Linden summoned to the Land?
23. How was Joan able to summon Linden?
24. Has the nature of summoning or of reality itself altered significantly?
25. Why did the old man not appear to Linden?

Part One
26. Was Linden mortally wounded when she was shot?
27. What do Linden’s visions as she is summoned mean, and who sent them?
28. Why is Joan possessed?
29. Why was Joan summoned to the Land?
30. Who summoned Joan?
31. Had Joan been to or seen the Land prior to her summons?
32. What does Joan’s real world death allow her to become?
33. Why is Roger in the Land?
34. What does Roger’s real world death allow him to become?
35. Whom does “Tell her that I have her son” refer to?
36. What is the significance of the parallelism between Joan and Linden?
37. What is the significance of the parallelism between Roger and Jeremiah (and Covenant)?
38. Why did a ceasure strike just as Linden was summoned?
39. What are the stars that are “set free by the severing of time”?
40. Why is Anele “mad”?
41. Why is Anele blind?
42. How had Anele continually eluded the Masters?
43. What were the ur-viles doing with Anele before Linden found him?
44. Did Caer Caveral have any influence on Anele?
45. Why is Anele the “Land’s last hope”?
46. What gave rise to Kevin’s Dirt?
47. What “subtle substance” does Kevin’s Dirt deprive people of?
48. What are the skurj, and what are they after?
49. How and why does Covenant speak to Linden in dreams?
50. Why does Covenant tell Linden to “never mind” about Jeremiah?
51. Why is the lurker of the Sarangrave growing restless?
52. What are the Elohim trying to warn the people of the Land about?
53. What are the croyel doing?
54. How did Kastenessen get free, and what is he after?
55. What happens to the people of the Land that a ceasure snatches away?
56. Which Half-Hand do the Elohim warn people against?
57. How do the Masters serve Foul?
58. What forces have been “set in motion which will shatter the Arch of Time”?
59. What is Foul’s deeper purpose, of which he will not speak?
60. Whom has Foul whispered to, and with what result?
61. What did the Elohim do, according to Foul, that would cause us to “feel despair”?
62. Why are the ur-viles trying to help Linden?
63. How is it that Covenant has a capability to possess Anele?
64. Why does someone “command” Anele not to speak of Kastenessen, Durance, skurj, and Elohim?
65. Why does Covenant ask Linden to “find me”?
66. Who is the fiery being that can possess Anele?
67. Who is/are Esmer’s master(s), and what are they after?
68. How did the Haruchai unleash “endless havoc” by fathering Esmer?
69. What Elohim guidance did Linden spurn which will cause much to be lost?

Part Two
70. What doom do the Ranyhyn fear Linden will bring forth?
71. Why does Esmer help Linden travel through time to retrieve the Staff?
72. Whose malice caused the storm while Esmer was away summoning a ceasure?
73. Why does Covenant say, “Just be wary of me. Remember that I’m dead.”
74. Why is Joan delivering blows to the Arch of Time and causing ceasures?
75. Why are Joan’s blows to the Arch of Time not rousing the Worm of the World’s End?
76. Why are there skest on the broken wall in Linden’s ceasure vision?
77. Why did the wild magic turn black in the ceasure?
78. What does it mean if Esmer can travel through time at will?
79. How do Haruchai and Ramen know so much about lore and time travel?
80. How is it that Esmer can “block” access to the wild magic?
81. How is the new Staff of Law different from the original?
82. Why did finding the Staff not help Anele?
83. What are the Demondim after?
84. What is Esmer’s relationship with the Demondim?
85. What is the fiery possessor’s relationship with the Demondim?
86. What is the significance of Linden learning where to find Jeremiah?
87. Why does the type of ground alter Anele’s madness?
88. Why are both Lord Foul and Covenant able to possess Anele on grass?
89. Does health-sense, or a lack of it, really explain the can/cannot of Linden’s ring?
90. Can Good ever be accomplished by evil means?
91. Whom does the stone know “betrayed” Covenant?
92. Who is the Mahdoubt, and what is she after?
93. Will the Haruchai finally discover a better answer for their passion?
94. Why is “Find” emphasized in the title of the last chapter?
95. What “peril and pain” await Linden?
96. Why must Linden “be cautious of Love”?
97. Is that really Covenant riding up to Revelstone?
98. Is that really Jeremiah riding up to Revelstone?
99. Why do the Haruchai call Covenant a stranger?
100. Why is Jeremiah “excited” as he rides up to Revelstone?
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another question

Does the fundamental question of ethics still apply?

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earthbrah wrote:Dear God, what will we do after 2013??? :(
Really start debating the Man Who series... 8)

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Here's a few of Wayfriend's questions that jump out at me. I'm sure I've missed others... and certainly many of your questions haven't been answered yet. Thanks for reposting them.

7. Is Roger possessed by a Raver?
Apparently not(?)

9. What is the significance of Jeremiah’s construction ability?
We seem to have gotten an answer to that, if the croyel told the truth.

12. Has Jeremiah been to or seen the Land prior to his summons?
Again, if the croyel spoke truthfully then it seems so.

22. Why was Linden summoned to the Land?
To cause endless pain to THOOLAH ;)

25. Why did the old man not appear to Linden?
As SRD said "it was no accident that he didn't..."

46. What gave rise to Kevin’s Dirt?
We know who and why, if not the actual "mechanism"

48. What are the skurj, and what are they after?
We know what they are... they seem to serve Kasty blindly, and don't have a specific motivation of their own other than to devour.

53. What are the croyel doing?
We know about one of them...

66. Who is the fiery being that can possess Anele?
Kasty

94. Why is “Find” emphasized in the title of the last chapter?
Because he just rode up, the implication being she hadn't Found him

97. Is that really Covenant riding up to Revelstone?
98. Is that really Jeremiah riding up to Revelstone?

:twisted: :twisted:

100. Why is Jeremiah “excited” as he rides up to Revelstone?
Because a croyel has never ridden a horse before.
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I think we have an answer for #57 as well , the Masters have served Foul by erradicating , the use , and knowledge of Earthpower from the Land.
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Wayfriend wrote:
60. Whom has Foul whispered to, and with what result?
I would venture to say that Foul whispered to Kastenessen about how to slip out of his Durance. Foul would be prescient enough to know how it would affect Kasty, and the skurj being loose definitely serve his purposes. If nothing else, they probably make the bastard laugh. :twisted:
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