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Brett Favre: Buccaneer?

Post by aTOMiC »

Yep. I could happen as early as today. Having Brett on our team would be interesting however it could prove to be disastrous for the Bucs. I have no doubt that Brett will be shoe horned into the starting lineup as early as possible and that spells trouble. Jeff Garcia has a year in the system and is poised to possibly play even better than he did last year. The rub on Garcia is that there is a very high probability that he won't play 16 games. The one thing that is an almost certainty is that Favre is extremely durable.

I don't know how this will turn out but it will most certainly be a circus around here.

Oh and by the way...how bout them Tampa Bay Rays? :biggrin:
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go Sox!
my guess is that Brett still finds a way to get to the Vikes. the Bucs already have how many qb's?
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Go sox? I agree that they should go far, far away.
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Both the Sox and the Patsies can go right into the chipper/shredder.

Favre is going to the Bucs barring a last-minute deal by the Pack.

Damn shame. Remember those two horrible seasons that Montana played for KC?
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Montana recovered from his injuries at the end of the 1992 season, but had lost the starting quarterback job to Steve Young. Montana, who felt he had more football left in him, was then traded to the Kansas City Chiefs in April 1993. His trade, along with the free agent signing of star Los Angeles Raiders running back Marcus Allen to the Chiefs, generated much media attention and excitement in Kansas City.

The Chiefs mailed three jerseys to Montana. One was number 3, his number from Notre Dame. Another was number 19, which he wore in little league and also briefly in training camp of the 1979 season with San Francisco, and the third was number 16, which Hall of Fame quarterback Len Dawson offered to let Montana wear since the organization had retired it. Montana declined Dawson's offer and wore 19 instead and signed a 3 year $10 million dollar contract.

Montana was injured for part of the 1993 season, but still led the Chiefs in two come-from-behind wins in the 1993 playoffs and reached the AFC Championship Game, where Kansas City lost to the Buffalo Bills. Kansas City has not won a playoff game since 1993. Including their two playoff victories that year, the 1993 Chiefs won 13 games, tying the franchise record for wins in a season. Montana was also selected to his final Pro Bowl at the end of the 1993 season.

Montana returned healthy to the Chiefs in 1994, starting all but 2 games. His highlights included a classic duel with John Elway (which Montana won) on Monday Night Football, and a memorable game in week 2 when Montana played against his old team, the 49ers and their new quarterback, Steve Young. In a much-anticipated match-up, Montana and the Chiefs prevailed and defeated the 49ers 24-17. Montana led his team to a final playoff appearance in 1994. Montana retired at the end of the 1994 season. His replacement with the Chiefs was his former backup in San Francisco, Steve Bono.

On April 18, 1995, Montana announced his retirement before a huge crowd at Justin Herman Plaza in San Francisco. The event was broadcast live on local television, and included speeches from John Madden, Eddie DeBartolo, Jr, and others. Several highlights from Montana's stay with San Francisco were also included as part of the broadcast. Bill Walsh served as the emcee for the event.

Year Team------------------GP- Att Com Pct Yds ---TD Int Rate
1993 Kansas City Chiefs 11 298 181 60.7 2144 13 7 87.4
1994 Kansas City Chiefs 14 493 299 60.6 3283 16 9 83.6


They might have been horrible because he wasn't wearing a 49rs jersey and it just wasn't the same but his performance those two years weren't bad at all.
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Huh, I didn't realize his stats were that good there....I just remember him getting pummeled a lot.
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Forgets stats, forget iconic status, forget the legendary talent of the Gunslinger, right now Farve is a dumpster fire, locker room cancer, and Im glad he's not paying a visit to my teams locker room. That being said lets examine where the true impact that this trade will have the biggest bang. The NFC North. Consider this. Brett ends up in Tampa, and the Buc's release Garcia who in turn ends up (probably) in either Chicago turning them back into a contender, or with the Vikings placing them firmly atop the division as the team stacked with the most powerful offense. If you happen to be a fan of an NFC North team you should be thanking Brett, he just gave you a chance at the division title, unless of course that team is the Packers.
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Good point, and good point about Garcia as well. Garcia's a decent QB, I'm not sure why the Bucs are so hot to pick up Favre, who's got (at most) 2 seasons in him.

I've very surprised Baltimore isn't pushing for him.
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I think Brett's going to the Jets.



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On a side note Rodgers was boo'ed loudly by his hometown fans at the teams family night scrimmage last week, his numbers stunk, I would say that he is distracted by everything that is happening around him, so mission accomplished Brett, not only did you leave big shoe's to fill, but you made sure they couldnt be filled by getting your die hard supporters into the act. Its shameful . You quit, for whatever reason, and now your return has the potential to affect the entire league, way to stay relevant , good for you, if not for anyone else.
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Oh, please. Aaron Rogers never stood a chance of filling Brett's shoes, and Brett has every right to change his mind.
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Brett has every right to change his mind, but I don't think he did it in a very diplomatic way.

Then again, I've never been a fan of his, so it's completely possible that I'm judging him too harshly.
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I'd read this morning in one of the Chicago papers that if Brett goes to Tampa the Bears might be interested in Chris Simms. The article suggested that the Bears could give back the late round pick that they got in trading Brian Griese to Tampa for Simms. The reasoning being that as a lefty, Simms blind side would be protected by John Tait.
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Just because you have the right to do something doesnt mean that you should, Im not famous , wealthy, or a legendary figure, in fact the only thing of value that I posess is my word, thats money, if I give you my word take it to the bank. Even though Brett has all of these other things, Ill never believe another word he says.
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Why? Because he thought he was done after last season, then, after several months off, found he had a bit more in the tank? Your thinking is ridiculous. And that's not even considering the reality that you too change you mind, whether or not you're man enough to admit it.
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That sounds like a personal attack Dandy , perhaps I think your a fool , a self important windbag who has taken offensive at my post, or maybe you just have deeper undiclosed feelings for Brett and take showers with his fat head, but I would never say that. That would be , what was that word you used ridiculous. I guess you have as much right to your opinion of my post as anyone else, but it still doesnt change the fact that Brett is a Liar as far as Im concerned, and you well your you.
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Sorry, didn't mean it as an attack on you as much as a defence of Favre. In the end, it's just sports we're talking about here; and I can't predict what'll happen any better than you can, so let's just enjoy the ride. I just don't think it's neccessarily fair to call Brett a liar and write him off like that. Everybody has second thoughts about the big things in their life. I think Maddon stated it right during the Hall Of Fame game; he said that the team was pressuring him for a decision, no doubt because he's considered retirement for a few years now, and Brett, still beaten up after the rigors of an extended season, felt like his tank was on empty. Then along comes summer, and Brett starts feeling the huge hole that used to be filled with preparation for football season, and realizes he's not done yet. Honestly, I feel for the guy. Hell, didn't Donaldson tell people he'd never do another Covenant series? Will you call him a liar and refuse to believe anything he said now that Runes and Fatal Revenant are out?

Anyway, Brett wants to play football, and there's a likelyhood that it'll end up affecting my home team very negatively, but still, I think it's ridiculous to put all that on Brett. If anything, it's the Buccaneers management that made Garcia and Simms not want to play here, making Brett almost neccessary. That's my frustration. I know the Bucs won't be better with Brett, but on the other hand, I can't forget 2 years ago whan they only had Gradkowski at QB, so Brett may actually help in the short run. As for Green Bay, I really think this'll be over for them the minute Brett's traded. I also think Rogers will end up being like the guy who replaced Dan Marino in Miami, but he could also be like Steve Young; it'll be fun finding out what kind of stuff he's got.
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Brett goes to the Jets. The circus will go to New York and we can get back to being serious about football here in Tampa.

I expect Favre will retire playing for a team that will most likely post an 8-8 record at best being soundly crushed by the Patriots twice.
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dANdeLION wrote:I think Brett's going to the Jets.

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I'm a little disappointed in what the Packers got in return for Favre - a conditional draft pick. But it could work out well.

Being a Packer's fan, I am glad that this is done with. I don't think Favre haddled himself very well through it, though it was a pretty tough situation to be in. I always will be a fan of his, and wish him well, but this retiring/not-retiring stuff was getting old. It wasn't just last year either. At the end of both '05 and '06 seasons there were tears and photo ops on the field for the "last game" - just like there was last year. It seemed that every year, when it got into December, or this last year, January, he seemed like he had enough again - and I'd rather have someone who could commit at this point.

Will I miss Favre? Absoultely. Certainly one of the most entertaining players in the game. But I think it was time to move on.
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