Okay, I know it's still a bit early, but I've been rewatching all the Blu-rays (which look/sound amazing, btw). It made me think that perhaps we should put together an unanswered question list, similar to what Wayfriend did in the Runes dissection.
I started something like this in the Season 5 thread, but that discussion quickly devolved into Midichloreans and such.
Here's what I wrote there:
1. What is the smoke monster?
2. How does the island heal people?
3. What are the numbers?
4. Why did the Dharma Initiative have to be destroyed?
5. Why doesn't Richard age?
6. What's up with the 4-toe statue (and other ruins)?
7. Why take the children?
8. What are the whispers?
9. How do so many people have "super" powers?
10. What's so special about Aaron?
11. Why do pregnant women die on this island?
13. What was the real purpose of all the hatches?
14. What was the real purpose of the Dharma Initiative?
12. What is the island?
I'd like to add to that:
13. Why not just program a computer to "push the button?"
14. If pushing the button was actually crucial, why leave it up to two men who were prone to fits of doubt?
15. If Desmond knew that not pushing the button actually had catastrophic consequences (e.g. making metal objects fly around), then why did he agree to help Locke keep Eko from pushing it? He quickly changed his mind once he read the computer printout, but a piece of paper could be faked, while it's harder to fake metal objects flying around.
16. What's up with all the coincidental character connections? By Season 2, they start to get ridiculous. (Anna/Christian, Sawyer/Anna/Christian, Libby/Desmond, Libby/Hurley, etc.)
17. What effect did turning the key under the hatch have? If all it did was make the sky purple, then why not do it before? If there was some undesirable reason for this consequence, then why leave it up to people who had no idea what was happening (see 14).
18. Was it Jacob, or his nemesis who wanted Eko to keep pushing the button? (I vote nemesis).
19. If the Pearl station (the one with all the TV screens, under the question mark) was really the pyschological experiment--and not Swan (since we saw the Swan was actually real), then what was the purpose of this experiment?
20. Was Christian bangin' Sarah? Why wouldn't he just tell Jack that he wasn't?
21. Why was Kelvin painting an invisible map on the hatch door? Who was that for?
Malik23 wrote:17. What effect did turning the key under the hatch have? If all it did was make the sky purple, then why not do it before? If there was some undesirable reason for this consequence, then why leave it up to people who had no idea what was happening (see 14).
I'm pretty sure that the "incident" when the code was not entered is what turned the sky purple; turning the key was the hatch's (and the anomaly's) self destruct, which stopped it happening.
But there were several times that the numbers weren't typed and yet the sky still didn't turn purple. Once when Kelvin was killed, and once more in season 2 when we saw the hieroglyphics for the first time. The sky didn't turn purple then. While it's possible that the numbers were entered quickly enough to avoid this, I am almost certain that the sky didn't go purple until Desmond turned the key. I'll have to go back and watch.
With that said, it still doesn't change the fact that they could have turned the key at any time, and the hatch and entering the numbers wouldn't have been necessary. Since nothing bad happened due to turning the key, all those decades of button pushing could have been easily avoided. Since they didn't do this, I'm left to wonder if there was some unknown benefit of pushing the button (other than releasing the "pressure"), or if it was pointless. Right now, it seems pointless. Hopefully we'll get an answer in season 6. If not, I'll consider it a major plot hole.
Malik23 wrote:With that said, it still doesn't change the fact that they could have turned the key at any time, and the hatch and entering the numbers wouldn't have been necessary. Since nothing bad happened due to turning the key, all those decades of button pushing could have been easily avoided. Since they didn't do this, I'm left to wonder if there was some unknown benefit of pushing the button (other than releasing the "pressure"), or if it was pointless. Right now, it seems pointless. Hopefully we'll get an answer in season 6. If not, I'll consider it a major plot hole.
Desmond didn't expect to live after turning the key. That's one reason not to turn it. Kelvin played at doing it, but he was more interested in getting away from the island. Desmond required the courage to turn it. Likely no one until him had it. Of course, there wasn't a more desperate need since the Incident.
You recall the time that Locke saw the map and Ben said nothing happened, well we know now that Ben must have pressed the button too. So, why didn't he turn the key? Providing, of course, that he knew about the key (which I'm fairly certain he did know), he believed it wasn't safe for the person who did.
4. Why did the Dharma Initiative have to be destroyed?
We haven't seen what happened after the Incident, but the paranoia of Radzinsky and some of the others shows a more opportunistic--even militaristic--attitude toward the island and its phenomena. No doubt some of them deserved their fate.
I'm pretty sure it was only the Incident currently in progress that prevented Desmond being killed in the explosion. He was transported through time, rather than blown up along with the anomaly.
Great points, guys. You've given me a lot to think about.
Can you think of anymore unanswered questions to add to the list?
I don't have a DVR, so I only saw season 5 once. I'm sure there are a lot of questions from that season which I've forgotten. I still can't wrap my head around the finale.
23. Who is the nemesis to Jacob? Is it him who keeps meeting with people on and off the island throughout the show in different forms, such as Christian walking around the island? Is he also the smoke monster?
24. Why couldn't the smoke monster go over the sonic fence thingy?
25. What was the incident? Has it been altered due to the events at the end of Season 5?
26. Who are Adam and Eve (the two bodies found in the caves during season 1)?
27. Did Claire die or was she still alive?
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Time is a waste of life
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Great questions, Cag! I've wondered exactly the same things.
I think "Adam and Eve" are Rose and Bernard. I've felt this for a while, but season 5 just about cinched it.
I can't decide if the incident was the events at the end of season 5, or if they changed it into something else. That's the most immediate mystery going into 6 (kind of like, "what inside the hatch" at the end of 1, or "what are they going to do to Jack, Kate, and Sawyer" at the end of 2, etc.).
I think I covered (though didn't answer) 22 with 9.
I think Claire is dead. Why else would she leave her son and hang out with her dead father?
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23. This is the hardest thing to get my head around. Apparently the nemesis can take the form of dead people (things?). Does this mean every time someone saw someone who couldn't be there (Christian, Charlie, Ana-Lucia), it was this person/being? That puts a big question mark on so much of what we've assumed was the island, but may be simply another free agent. If this is true, and I'm not completely sold on it (after all, Walt appeared to Locke and he wasn't there and he wasn't dead), Claire is dead. But there might be more than one pooka floating around.
It seems obvious to me that the nemesis appeared as Alex and Locke. But is it?
Jacob, what little we've seen of him, is still an enigma. He can be killed, but for all we know he could inhabit Locke's dead body, which would be quite an odd development.
Between the Incident and Jacob's death, the next 5 months are going to be long.
1. What is the smoke monster?
I suspect it is Mr. Loophole, and he can take other forms, but I don't think he is every anomaly on the island. The times we have seen Walt may very well have been Walt. There was discussion of this (something to the effect of a question, "have you ever seen Walt someplace where he shouldn't have been," or something like that), and after all, he is a "very special boy."
But if you trace at least the attitude of the people we suspect being Mr. Loophole, as mentioned in the previous post, you can kinda tie that with at least Dave (Hurley's "imaginary" friend) and the Yemi that judged Eko. A friend suspects there are two smoke monsters, and one could very well be Jacob who might take on other forms. I can't tell which is Christian (if it isn't both of them at different times), if this is the case. But if Mr. Loophole has been manipulating them all along, it makes sense that it is him, setting Locke into position.
2. How does the island heal people?
Magnets have been tied to healing, so a strong electromagnetic field on the island might, but this is only a guess. It probably has something to do with the light and dark presences on the island though, since there are little anomalies on that; i.e. Ben's spinal cancer, or whatever it was. I suspect we'll never get that directly answered, but I might be wrong.
3. What are the numbers?
They are the numbers on the faked moon lander from the U.S. that the lizardpeople enslaving little German children in the underground city under Denver International Airport put there. Umm...actually, I don't have a clue, other than that they are "cursed."
4. Why did the Dharma Initiative have to be destroyed?
A turf war, is what it seemed like. They were trying to exploit the island while the Others live in harmony with it.
5. Why doesn't Richard age?
I suspect we'll probably find that out in the first episode of next season, as we will revisit the scene with Jacob and Mr. Loophole with that ship arriving. I suspect it will be the Black Rock, and that Richard will be on the ship. He'll get to not age to serve Jacob. I wonder if now that Jacob is dead, if he will now start to age. Just a guess, really.
6. What's up with the 4-toe statue (and other ruins)?
Not sure about the 4 toes and why they have focused our attention to that, but it does seem to be Anubis, which might be the identity of Mr. Loophole. Then again, it might instead be the identity of Jacob, as Anubis was the god to protect the dead and bring them to the afterlife.
7. Why take the children?
They are more tasty - less stringy. And that women cannot give birth on the island. A bigger question is where did the children the Others took go?
8. What are the whispers?
This one still baffles me, and I don't have a guess. I've heard a guess about this, but I don't remember. It might be the viewers at home bleeding into the fiction.
9. How do so many people have "super" powers?
You had mentioned Walt, but I'm trying to think of who else has them. I guess Eye Patch Russian guy, as he was the Terminator. And Miles. Hurley, I suppose. I just wonder if the island draws those with powers to the island. But yeah...how does the island know? I'm starting to blur the line with Heroes here.
10. What's so special about Aaron?
Not even a guess.
11. Why do pregnant women die on this island?
The only guess I have is the tie with Anubis - it is a place of death, not life, despite the healing properties.
13. What was the real purpose of all the hatches?
That seemed to be clear - they were there to conduct different experiments. What all those experiments were is questionable, but it seems the map on the back of the 4 Lost jigsaw puzzles gave a tad more information.
14. What was the real purpose of the Dharma Initiative?
To explore the many aspects of this island, but I'm mainly wondering about who was really behind it all. I suspect what is being said by the producers is that we probably won't get any more info on the Dharma Initiative.
12. What is the island?
A place where all your dreams come true! Even your nightmares. Uhh...I dunno. It seems to be a home for two opposing forces, as near as I can tell. Is it special because they are there, or are they there because it is special? I dunno.
13. Why not just program a computer to "push the button?"
It might still have been an experiment, but it seems more likely that it is a TV gimmick that was dreamed up by the writers, but doesn't make as much sense as it should.
14. If pushing the button was actually crucial, why leave it up to two men who were prone to fits of doubt?
See 13.
15. If Desmond knew that not pushing the button actually had catastrophic consequences (e.g. making metal objects fly around), then why did he agree to help Locke keep Eko from pushing it? He quickly changed his mind once he read the computer printout, but a piece of paper could be faked, while it's harder to fake metal objects flying around.
It seems that Desmond tied it together to the day the plane crashed, and realized at that point because of the things flying around on that day that it really did have an effect other than the weirdness he saw.
16. What's up with all the coincidental character connections? By Season 2, they start to get ridiculous. (Anna/Christian, Sawyer/Anna/Christian, Libby/Desmond, Libby/Hurley, etc.)
Yeah, that bugs me too. I always felt it was pretty contrived, but with time travel and supernatural forces influencing things, as well as Richard running around checking on Locke throughout his life, it seems a bit more likely that they were being influenced by outside forces to eventually come together as they did. But it does still seem a bit masturbatory on the writers side.
17. What effect did turning the key under the hatch have? If all it did was make the sky purple, then why not do it before? If there was some undesirable reason for this consequence, then why leave it up to people who had no idea what was happening (see 14).
It was always described as a failsafe, but I still am not sure what all that was about. The other guesses are as good as mine.
18. Was it Jacob, or his nemesis who wanted Eko to keep pushing the button? (I vote nemesis).
It was a dream of his brother, wasn't it? So I suspect the nemesis, as Yemi later shows up, then turns into the smoke monster when Eko is killed. Unless it was a coincidence with the smoke monster, but I always took it as they were the same.
19. If the Pearl station (the one with all the TV screens, under the question mark) was really the pyschological experiment--and not Swan (since we saw the Swan was actually real), then what was the purpose of this experiment?
Well, the Swan was set up later, supposedly to contain the electromagnetic fluxuations, or whatnot. And I guess they set up another screen in the Pearl. Weren't they in the Pearl in season 5 several times, or am I mistaken? It seems like it started out as a monitoring station, but that videotape in the 80's seems to make it a lot more confusing. Yeah, good question.
20. Was Christian bangin' Sarah? Why wouldn't he just tell Jack that he wasn't?
Question #1 - no. Question #2 - c'mon....it's Lost. Nobody directly says anything in this show, even at times when it seems crucial to do so.
21. Why was Kelvin painting an invisible map on the hatch door? Who was that for?
Good questions. It seems as though several of your questions are writing flaws in the show. There might be a purpose, but I suspect they are there to serve the story rather than posing another mystery. But I might be wrong.
22. What is so special about Walt?
I singled Walt out because of how much he has been involved in the story. He makes animals appear and can be in more places at once. At least, as far as we can tell. Is there a reason for this, or is it essentially the same as the other people with powers?
23. Who is the nemesis to Jacob? Is it him who keeps meeting with people on and off the island throughout the show in different forms, such as Christian walking around the island? Is he also the smoke monster?
I've already discussed this above.
24. Why couldn't the smoke monster go over the sonic fence thingy?
Writers convenience or something else?
25. What was the incident? Has it been altered due to the events at the end of Season 5?
I really have no guesses about this, which is why I posed this.
26. Who are Adam and Eve (the two bodies found in the caves during season 1)?
I also suspect Rose and Bernard, but didn't get it until Season 5.
27. Did Claire die or was she still alive?
I vote dead as well, but if there is a reset of everything, as is implied, is she still going to be dead? The biggest clue is Claire saying something like, "I'm a bit woozy, but I think I'll live." Miles: "I wouldn't be so sure." That is from memory, so I'm not sure if that is exactly right, but pretty much a giveaway.
NEW QUESTIONS:
28. Is everything reset? If so, then what was the point of previous 5 seasons?
I suspect everything won't be the same. From the "next season" preview after the season finale of season 5, I think it might start just as season 1 did - with Jack waking up in the jungle after the plane crash. But I don't think things are going to play out the same, and it is hard to say what the memories are of everything. But something will bring the plane down on the island. And I suspect Eko will have died on the plane, as I would be surprised if they could get the actor back. But I could be wrong.
29. If everything is reset, does that mean Jacob was never killed?
It seems the point all along has been a battle between the forces of light and dark. The backgammon game in the pilot episode seemed to set this up, but until the season closer of s5, we never knew who the players were. It's hard to say if that will be reset, and it makes sense that Jacob would be alive again if none of the events happened, but one thing I've learned from watching Lost is not to expect what you suspect. It would sure shake up the game a bit if Jacob was killed. Perhaps.
Life is a waste of time
Time is a waste of life
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I'm going to respond to some of these. My comments are bolded (is that a word?).
Cagliostro wrote:4. Why did the Dharma Initiative have to be destroyed?
A turf war, is what it seemed like. They were trying to exploit the island while the Others live in harmony with it. But what is "it"? How could Ben live in harmony with Jacob without ever meeting him?
5. Why doesn't Richard age?
I suspect we'll probably find that out in the first episode of next season, as we will revisit the scene with Jacob and Mr. Loophole with that ship arriving. I suspect it will be the Black Rock, and that Richard will be on the ship. He'll get to not age to serve Jacob. I wonder if now that Jacob is dead, if he will now start to age. Just a guess, really. Aren't they all? I have 3 or 4 but they all depend on some facts I have to wait for.
8. What are the whispers?
This one still baffles me, and I don't have a guess. I've heard a guess about this, but I don't remember. It might be the viewers at home bleeding into the fiction. I've wondered if they are echoes from tunnels when a "door" is open. Julia heard whispers just before and after the woman appeared to give her a message from Ben in "The Other Woman".
10. What's so special about Aaron?
Not even a guess. I wonder for what reason did Claire/Loophole appeared to Kate and tell her not to bring Aaron back with her to the island.
11. Why do pregnant women die on this island?
The only guess I have is the tie with Anubis - it is a place of death, not life, despite the healing properties. But women did give birth. Julia helped deliver one last year. Must have something to do with the Incident.
13. What was the real purpose of all the hatches?
That seemed to be clear - they were there to conduct different experiments. What all those experiments were is questionable, but it seems the map on the back of the 4 Lost jigsaw puzzles gave a tad more information. As I read this I remembered the instructions at the Pearl station to the observers there, which was that the people at the Swan station weren't pressing the button for any reason. I think some of the other stations were built to hide the importance of the Swan station.
13. Why not just program a computer to "push the button?"
It might still have been an experiment, but it seems more likely that it is a TV gimmick that was dreamed up by the writers, but doesn't make as much sense as it should. It sure doesn't make sense today, but in '77 were computers so reliable? To computer people, sure. This could also be because they wanted to make it look like an experiment to keep its importance a secret.
14. If pushing the button was actually crucial, why leave it up to two men who were prone to fits of doubt?
See 13. Well, gotta remember this was the only station the Others didn't appear to mess with. Kelvin claimed he was Dharma, and Desmond was completely separated. It seems more likely that the job wasn't intended to be left to 1 or 2 people, but Dharma was gone.
19. If the Pearl station (the one with all the TV screens, under the question mark) was really the pyschological experiment--and not Swan (since we saw the Swan was actually real), then what was the purpose of this experiment?
Well, the Swan was set up later, supposedly to contain the electromagnetic fluxuations, or whatnot. And I guess they set up another screen in the Pearl. Weren't they in the Pearl in season 5 several times, or am I mistaken? It seems like it started out as a monitoring station, but that videotape in the 80's seems to make it a lot more confusing. Yeah, good question. The Pearl was an observation station to check on the guys pushing the button, but those in charge didn't want the observers to know about the Incident.
NEW QUESTIONS:
28. Is everything reset? If so, then what was the point of previous 5 seasons?
I suspect everything won't be the same. From the "next season" preview after the season finale of season 5, I think it might start just as season 1 did - with Jack waking up in the jungle after the plane crash. But I don't think things are going to play out the same, and it is hard to say what the memories are of everything. But something will bring the plane down on the island. And I suspect Eko will have died on the plane, as I would be surprised if they could get the actor back. But I could be wrong.
29. If everything is reset, does that mean Jacob was never killed?
It seems the point all along has been a battle between the forces of light and dark. The backgammon game in the pilot episode seemed to set this up, but until the season closer of s5, we never knew who the players were. It's hard to say if that will be reset, and it makes sense that Jacob would be alive again if none of the events happened, but one thing I've learned from watching Lost is not to expect what you suspect. It would sure shake up the game a bit if Jacob was killed. Perhaps.
I really don't think there will be a reset. What would be the point of the events in the present if they averted everything in 77? If anything had really been changed by the Losties it would have been reflected in the present.
No. I think the time traveling done in Lost is event-fulfillment. Sayid was supposed to shoot Ben so he would be saved and changed by the island. Faraday went back so his mom could shoot him. There were so many of these last year I can't remember them all.
Well, then, I guess I have a question about your answers. Why would they want to keep the importance of the Swan station secret?
Oh, and by "it" in #4, I meant the island, not Jacob. As near as I could tell, it didn't seem like the Others really built much other than small living structures (like the little village when Faraday was shot). Everything they later lived in was built by Dharma.
Good point on #11. And it was pre-Incident. Now if only we knew what the actual incident was.
And like I said, I don't think it will be a full reset of everything, but it seemed like the "black is white" ending of season 5, things have definitely changed dramatically.
Life is a waste of time
Time is a waste of life
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Cagliostro wrote:Well, then, I guess I have a question about your answers. Why would they want to keep the importance of the Swan station secret? For the same reason most of the Dharma folks were unaware of what was going on at the Swan station before the Incident. Paranoia. You can probably toss in some guilt and fear of recrimination in there also, but hopefully we'll learn more next season. Telling the observers in the Pearl that the Swan station is a behavioral experiment just sounds to me like the spreading of disinformation.
Oh, and by "it" in #4, I meant the island, not Jacob. As near as I could tell, it didn't seem like the Others really built much other than small living structures (like the little village when Faraday was shot). Everything they later lived in was built by Dharma. I guess my point is that we don't even know what the island is. A neutral phenomenon/force caught between good and evil, or the juxtaposition of those 2? The Others did live closer to the island, but how manipulated are they? Richard acknowledges that the healing of Ben changed him, and Rousseau could see that her companions were changed by what happened to them in the tunnels.
Good point on #11. And it was pre-Incident. Now if only we knew what the actual incident was. You know, I don't recall now if that lady's baby was conceived off the island (if they told us), like Claire and Rousseau. Still, it seemed the point of that scene was to show that the situation in the present isn't normal.
And like I said, I don't think it will be a full reset of everything, but it seemed like the "black is white" ending of season 5, things have definitely changed dramatically.
Certainly. The question is, which event has changed things more? Jacob's death or the Incident? I mean, the Incident had occurred already as far as the present was concerned. Did they change things or just make it come out like it was supposed to?
Isn't it still free will if they tried to make things better? Think of what would have happened if they hadn't tried. Well, since we don't know what they did ...
This is why the next few months are going to be tough.
Yeah, with 11, something definitely changed to make having babies problematic.
Which season did you all like best? I think this show keeps getting better with every season. 4 and 5 were just astonishing. After they set an end date, they cut out all the fat and gave us nothing but meat. I used to think that 2 was mostly a waste, since half of the season dealt with people who eventually all died (except unimportant Bernard), but after rewatching it this time, I'm not so sure. The Henry Gale stuff is when this show took off. And the opening few episodes with the hatch contain the central mystery of this show. The season finale was a thing of wonder.
No, I think each season tops the one before. I can't wait for 6. Hell, I can't wait to rewatch 5!
Strangely enough, I still think Season 1 is the best. Whenever I have gone back and rewatched any episodes (which I just did with part 1 & 2 of the pilot this last weekend), it just strikes me how frickin' good it was. They took their time and made some quality. In the later years, it seems frequently rushed, party due to the writers strike but also because of the deadlines. I think Season 1 ended up the best, because Season 2 gets a little saggy in the middle as it seems they are trying to kill a bit of time here and there to not start setting up stuff before they planned to. Season 3 sags at the beginning. A lot. So glad when we get away from Otherville during that season.
Season 4 was the first that they had planned an end date, so I missed a lot of the nice little moments that occasionally pop up (like Hurley giving Ben some of his candy bar), but this was also writers strike season, so they had to rush, which affected the show. Season 5 felt rushed too, but a bit more stable than Season 4.
The producers said that Season 6 will feel a lot like Season 1, which I initially took to mean pacing-wise, but with the whole reset thing, that might have been what they meant. We'll see. They have a lot to wrap up and 16 episodes to do it in. And they have to set up the rules for this season.
Season 1 had steady pace, and we are introduced to all the characters. It was interesting to see whose backstory we would get next. Hurley's was a big shock, and fun and seemed to set up a bigger mystery.
All the seasons have been mindblowingly good, especially the bookend episodes for each season, and all the people who dropped it in Season 2 during the saggy bits really missed out on a great show. Mainly because that season took the longest to ramp up, but once it did, it really frickin' took off. I remember how it was amazingly good episode back to back to back. When everyone was bitching during Season 3, I had faith that it would get better after it was demonstrated in Season 2 that it would, and it did.
I do agree that they are giving us nothing but meat, but I like a little of the fat to slow down and have a breather every now and again. Rather than from 24 to 16 episodes, maybe 20 episodes would have been better to keep it from being such a rush job. Just my opinion.
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Life is a waste of time
Time is a waste of life
So get wasted all of the time
And you'll have the time of your life
I loved s3. The only thing I didn't like about the beginning was the break after about 4 episodes. I'm happier now that they run straight through, even with the long wait.
The con Ben does to Sawyer with the rabbit and heart monitor was awesome. The mindfuck to get Jack to operate on Ben was a work of art. Now THAT'S a con.
I think s6 will be 18 eps, not 16. I'll have to check on that. I do know that they asked for one more, which tells me that they have it all planned out and realized that it wasn't enough time.
I've started running through the seasons now. I'm on season 2, but I had a thought - we still haven't seen what is so damn special about Aaron. The latest we've got is Claire coming to Kate saying not to bring Aaron back to the island. Is it that the creators didn't want to deal with another kid like Walt aging before us, or is it a bit more complex? With all the time travelling and such, could Aaron be Jacob? Is that why "Claire" (who might have been Mr. Loophole) told Kate not to bring him? Or at the very least, he would be who could somehow help screw up Mr. Loophole's plan?
Someone else brought up the idea that maybe Mr. Loophole isn't the bad that we think, and actually Jacob could be the baddie. I suppose it is possible.
Life is a waste of time
Time is a waste of life
So get wasted all of the time
And you'll have the time of your life
Cagliostro wrote:I've started running through the seasons now. I'm on season 2, but I had a thought - we still haven't seen what is so damn special about Aaron. The latest we've got is Claire coming to Kate saying not to bring Aaron back to the island. Is it that the creators didn't want to deal with another kid like Walt aging before us, or is it a bit more complex? With all the time travelling and such, could Aaron be Jacob? Is that why "Claire" (who might have been Mr. Loophole) told Kate not to bring him? Or at the very least, he would be who could somehow help screw up Mr. Loophole's plan?
Someone else brought up the idea that maybe Mr. Loophole isn't the bad that we think, and actually Jacob could be the baddie. I suppose it is possible.
How they showed us Jacob in the last episode was very sympathetic. He appeared to the Losties as himself, even if they didn't know him, but Loophole (if it is him) keeps pushing them with dead (or lost) relatives and acquaintances.
I can't help thinking we're intended to think this way. But is that just setting us up for another OMG?
Maybe they're both bad, and the point is that their exploitation, however intended, is the evil?
Good point about Aaron. Perhaps he just needed to be born on the island. Seems like there are a lot of questions to be answered in 16-18 episodes.
Season six is the first and only season of Lost ever to not feature any kind of preview or official promotional material such as sneak peeks and promo pictures for future episodes since the Lost producers considers any single frame from the first episodes to be too revealing. According to Lindelof, "even a single scene from the show would basically tip what it is we're doing this year, and what it is we're doing this year is different than what we've done in other years".
I suppose we all suspected a game change. It has to be either the time period they are in, or where they are that would give it away. Either would suffice to be a massive spoiler. I hope it's a different time period on the island, and not a reboot before getting on the plane. I think the "changing things" possibility was a red herring. Faraday was either wrong or lying. They will create the incident, not stop it.
Maybe we'll see them in the 80s. Maybe it picks up way, way back in time. I really hope it's not a true reboot. Watching Season 5 Blu-ray this week, I realized they've already teased the image of Jack waking up exactly like the pilot episode--twice. Seeing it repeated again (4 times total), would be too redudant to be truly surprising.
It can't be merely a plot device to do something freaky and shocking like getting off the island, then returning. It has to explain what is going on in the show in general. The time for detours is over.
This is why the next few months are going to be tough. 