Ranyhyn responsible for Lord Foul's ability to attack time?

[Zephalephelah]

When it is mastered, the krill came to life, sharpening the metal with its gem, shaping the metal into a sharpness that rivals obsidian. I believe that white gold mastered the weapon and once mastered by such a great power it was always mastered by that power whenever it was present regardless of distance just as the ranyhyn can be present from a whistle despite distance or time.

The Ranyhyn appear to be the only creatures that can overcome time in some manner. They hear the calling of their riders before the rider whistles his or her call. They appear to be the only creation that is able to interact with the arch of time. If this is true, then perhaps Lord Foul will attack them directly in the 3rd Chronicles. He has never directly attacked them. In the 1st Chronicles, Foul used the ravers to attack the land itself before Revelstone and to create the vortex in the war against Hile Troy's forces. In the 2nd Chronicles, he attacked nature. Maybe now he will attempt to warp the ranyhyn with his power in order to "attack time itself".

[Landwaster]

True, the ranyhyn seem to utilise some form of prescience, which would be a twisting of time, surely. Its quite possible that Foul might be able to get a hold of that, and master it!

[Furls Fire]

hmmm..that's an interesting theory, Zeph. The Ranyhyn are Earthpower, not Time tho. No doubt they will be corrupted in some way, as Foul is going to be messing with Time. But, my thought is that it will be thru Covenant himself that the corruption of Time takes place. Being that he is now considered the Keystone to the Arch. He's wild magic incarnate. Foul has to get past him to break it. And Foul will want to make him suffer. And what better way to do that than to corrupt the Land's history and Time and it's people, and yes, the Ranyhyn? I have no doubt that everything is going to go absolutely haywire.

[Zephalephelah]

and yes, the Ranyhyn? I have no doubt that everything is going to go absolutely haywire.

I also would prefer that Lord Foul not be able to attack the Ranyhyn. But since I see him getting more powerful per incarnation, it is a fear I speak of.

[Skyweir]

When it is mastered, the krill came to life, sharpening the metal with its gem, shaping the metal into a sharpness that rivals obsidian. I believe that white gold mastered the weapon and once mastered by such a great power it was always mastered by that power whenever it was present regardless of distance just as the ranyhyn can be present from a whistle despite distance or time.

The Ranyhyn appear to be the only creatures that can overcome time in some manner. They hear the calling of their riders before the rider whistles his or her call. They appear to be the only creation that is able to interact with the arch of time. If this is true, then perhaps Lord Foul will attack them directly in the 3rd Chronicles. He has never directly attacked them. In the 1st Chronicles, Foul used the ravers to attack the land itself before Revelstone and to create the vortex in the war against Hile Troy's forces. In the 2nd Chronicles, he attacked nature. Maybe now he will attempt to warp the ranyhyn with his power in order to "attack time itself".

interesting thoughts .. I concur with furls though .. and further believe that the raynhim are not time .. nor would imho .. attacking the raynhin or even corrupting the raynhim affect time at all ..

imho .. it would simply attack the raynhin .. and as you know we did not see the raynhin in the 2nd chrons at all .. and we do not know for sure if they survived the earths transition either ..

my personal feeling is that they did .. and were safely out of the reach of the sunbane .. with the ramen as their wards ..

Clearly the only way to attack time .. is to attack the very element which preserves time .. the AoT ..

[Furls Fire]

SKY!! Where HAVE you been??? missed ya girlfriend!!

[Skyweir]

LOL hugglez furls! I been busy in RL .. its pressure time here .. been busy with end of semester stuff and hey .. had a job interview on Monday .. LOL .. and the weather here is picking up and have heaps to do in the garden ..

refurbishing my plants .. weeding after hybernating all winter LOL .. and its all good

[Furls Fire]

ahhh! I see. Rude how r/l can keep us away from the Watch.

Hugglesss... glad to see ya

[dANdeLION]

True, the ranyhyn seem to utilise some form of prescience, which would be a twisting of time, surely.

I don't think so. The Ranyhyn are of the Land. The earthpower, which we all know to be what sustains the Ranyhyn, and makes them able to anticipate the call. But nothing of the Land is capable of twisting the Land, much less altering the Arch of Time. As for Foul using the Ranyhyn for his own evil intentions, well; that is what he does. In his own way, Foul is even more bound by his own evil than any servant of the Land. But, we don't really get to see that as much as we get to see how Foul hurts Covenant and Linden by hurting the things of the Land.

[dlbpharmd]

I agree with DAN - I don't see the Ranhyn's ability to anticipate their rider's need for them as a "twisting of time." They still had to leave the Plains of Ra and gallop over many leagues to reach Revelstone (or wherever the rider was.) Thus time meant exactly the same thing for them as it does to us. The best example of this is in TPTP when Mhoram summons Drinny from the shores of Glimmermere; SRD goes into great effort to describe that Drinny must have left the Plains many days prior and traveled well around Satansfist's army and through the Northron Climbs to reach Mhoram, arriving exhausted and almost emaciated.

[KaosArcana]

I think the Sandgorgons have that same power, though.

Strong and fast as Nom is, I don't think he's fast enough to
have crossed oceans and deserts and what have you to
reach Covenant at Revelstone in seconds.

[Landwaster]

Nah yer wrong hehe ... I hold to my belief that being able to receive a message earlier than when its sent, is a form of 'twisting' (or whatever better term there is) time.

[birdandbear]

Touché Landwaster. I think any form of precognition could be viewed as a "twisting" of time, like poking your head out from behind the guy in front of you to get a look at the head of the line.

[hierachy]

This is a good theory but, the great horses cannot be used to corrupt the arch time as they are inside it. I agree that Foul will probably try to use our deceaced hero for his evil plot...

[Forestal]

perhaps the ranyhyn are just strong with the force

[dlbpharmd]

I think the Sandgorgons have that same power, though.

Strong and fast as Nom is, I don't think he's fast enough to
have crossed oceans and deserts and what have you to
reach Covenant at Revelstone in seconds.

Wasn't it the magic of Sandgorgon's Doom that allowed for the rapid transportation of released Sandgorgons?

[dANdeLION]

Wasn't it the magic of Sandgorgon's Doom that allowed for the rapid transportation of released Sandgorgons?

No, that's a popular misconception. The Sandgorgon Transit Authority is actually responsible for the rapid transportation of released Sandgorgons.

[Landwaster]

Touché Landwaster. I think any form of precognition could be viewed as a "twisting" of time, like poking your head out from behind the guy in front of you to get a look at the head of the line.

That's actually a rebuttal I have to pay credence to! Good point.

[Landwaster]

This is a good theory but, the great horses cannot be used to corrupt the arch time as they are inside it. I agree that Foul will probably try to use our deceaced hero for his evil plot...

Hmm, fair enough. By my argument, its just a handy usage of a loophole in time. Wouldn't be corruption at all. It'd just be taking advantage.

[aTOMiC]

perhaps the ranyhyn are just strong with the force

exactly my thoughts