Spin State

Post by **Holsety** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:02 pm

One of the sci-fi images of romance I always enjoyed was depicted in a Chris Moriarity (IIRC that is the author, I probably don't remember correctly) book called "Spin State." In it, the main character is a woman with robot parts. She's in love with an AI who loves her, too, but every so often, in the middle of their love, the AI accesses his higher processes and kind of "blanks out" every so often.

Now, I am a human, with a not particularly intelligent - even insanely stupid and self-killing - brain, but I have this feeling often at this point, despite being given medication. It would be nice if there was someplace outside of the internet, which gives the illusion of listening to what my brain understands best and reflects the illusion back, where my brain felt consistently stimulated (probably not very much of my brain is being stimulated right now, since physically I'm feeling very little besides keys on a keyboard). Nice for other human beings, that is.

I love the cold of the universe. It's a beautiful, icy cold. It is like the feeling of being a bit of starlight being shredded into a black hole, with the knowledge that I will be spat out somewhere else, surely, reflecting all the knowledge I had before somewhere new, just as interested in hearing my knowledge as ever. Or just kept stuck within the black hole, but with all the light in the universe in it, why would that bother me? Until I get bored, that is...but you won't see me do anything that matters much to you IRL.

Post by **sgt.null** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:35 am

i want to watch a black hole. for eons if possible. before taking the plunge...

Post by **Holsety** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:19 pm

It sucks to realize we may already be past the event horizon and not know it.

But I am fighting it, which is why I am working on making sense agian. I want to see science figure out black hole detection, etc so we know if the earth ever hits one.

Post by **sgt.null** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:23 pm

why would a black hole suddenly show up in the earth's path?

Post by **Vraith** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:34 am

Even if it did, we'd definitely detect it...finding black holes is only hard on an enormous scale [even that's getting easier all the time].
But...detecting it wouldn't matter...if it was in our path not f-all we could do about it except party like it's 1999.

Post by **sgt.null** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:43 am

i imagine the ending being like this ...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzAUcvmIMfk

Post by **Holsety** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:04 am

Vraith wrote:Even if it did, we'd definitely detect it...finding black holes is only hard on an enormous scale [even that's getting easier all the time].
But...detecting it wouldn't matter...if it was in our path not f-all we could do about it except party like it's 1999.

But, isn't it possible to pass into its event horizon without knowing you are in it, if it has enough density? Black holes, IIRC, get smaller in terms of surface area and yet pull in more the more that goes in...

(in other words, an increase in density)

Post by **sgt.null** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:23 pm

so we could have a localized black hole in indianoplis for example?

Post by **Vraith** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:18 pm

Holsety wrote:
Vraith wrote:Even if it did, we'd definitely detect it...finding black holes is only hard on an enormous scale [even that's getting easier all the time].
But...detecting it wouldn't matter...if it was in our path not f-all we could do about it except party like it's 1999.
But, isn't it possible to pass into its event horizon without knowing you are in it, if it has enough density? Black holes, IIRC, get smaller in terms of surface area and yet pull in more the more that goes in...

(in other words, an increase in density)

No...at the very least, the shredding of the planet [and us] on the way to the horizon would...briefly...give us a clue.
In general, the object itself keeps "shrinking" towards infinite density as it gathers mass...but the surface area of the horizon increases...as does the distance/volume of space that its gravity reaches out and sucks things from.

Of course, is a large enough one spontaneously self-generated in indianapolis....

Post by **sgt.null** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:48 pm

so add this to the list of possible dooms-day scenerios?

Post by **Holsety** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:48 pm

Umm,
this was mostly a poetic post, not an attempt to really suggest we are being sucked in by a black hole,
But I believe there was already an urban legend about a supposed black hole hitting Europe.

It's an urban legend for a reason. Hi guys. How are you doing. Are you enjoying yourselves? Did you feel like you are being sucked in to an inescabaple trap which will shred your matter like butter?

Post by **sgt.null** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:05 pm

wasn't it the super matter collider that was going to bring a black hole to bear?

Post by **Holsety** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:45 am

sgt.null wrote:wasn't it the super matter collider that was going to bring a black hole to bear?

I think people were saying there was a small chance of it happening, at least...

Physicists were like "ya umm, it really could shred the universe, we have no way of knowing." IIRC

Post by **sgt.null** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:39 pm

like the first atom bomb - they thought there was a shot it would set the whole atmosphere on fire. "let's do it anyway!"

Post by **Holsety** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:04 pm

sgt.null wrote:like the first atom bomb - they thought there was a shot it would set the whole atmosphere on fire. "let's do it anyway!"

Still seems like they are pretty afraid that there are enough nukes in major countries, esp. USA, to pretty much destroy "goodness" in human life.

Post by **sgt.null** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:52 am

Holsety wrote:
sgt.null wrote:like the first atom bomb - they thought there was a shot it would set the whole atmosphere on fire. "let's do it anyway!"
Still seems like they are pretty afraid that there are enough nukes in major countries, esp. USA, to pretty much destroy "goodness" in human life.

or the missing nuke parts from the collapse of the soviet empire...

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