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The noisy stuff

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:03 pm
by michaelm
As there's a 'The heavy stuff' thread, I thought I'd start one to cover the kind of music that some people might think of as noise. Maybe avant garde, music concrete, tape collages, guitar feedback, modular bleeps and bloops, etc.

Anyone into anything like that? It's kind of hard to explain to people what there is to like in something that is essentially dissonant noise with no discernible rhythm, but to me it's a pleasing experience.

Examples might be Ornette Coleman's 'Free Jazz', Pink Floyd's 'A Saucerful of Secrets', The Beatles 'Revolution 9', The Stooges 'L.A. Blues', etc.

Is it just noise? Is it music? Is it something of both?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:44 pm
by Orlion
You mean something like the following?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv_bkS5VVaA

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:30 pm
by michaelm
I have that album, but it's more musical than what I was thinking of. John McLaughlin's guitar playing on that album probably falls into what I was thinking of though

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:49 pm
by Zarathustra
I love Birds of Fire! Awesome album. Definitely not noise.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:17 pm
by Vraith
michaelm wrote:. John McLaughlin's guitar playing on that album probably falls into what I was thinking of though
Oh...he's a great player, one of the absolute best.
If that's [and saucer full of secrets] what you consider part of noisy, I'm on board for noisy.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:42 pm
by michaelm
Vraith wrote:
michaelm wrote:. John McLaughlin's guitar playing on that album probably falls into what I was thinking of though
Oh...he's a great player, one of the absolute best.
If that's [and saucer full of secrets] what you consider part of noisy, I'm on board for noisy.
I would say both fall at the more musical end of noisy though.

But agree that McLaughlin is an awesome player. Birds of Fire just sounds so messy on the surface, but it's far from random notes or anything like that.

For noise I was more thinking things like this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFp73sqwNfU

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:39 pm
by Vraith
michaelm wrote: For noise I was more thinking things like this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFp73sqwNfU
Yea, familiar with that one and a couple others you mentioned initially...
but it's not something I have much knowledge about/exposure to...
just random bits...mostly occasional experiments/forays by bands who
aren't really committed to the "genre." [and most of which would also qualify for the "heavy" thread.]

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:34 pm
by michaelm
Ornette Coleman made a hell of a noise sometimes:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bRTFr0ytA8

This album is great though. Once in a while I have to listen to it loud in the car! 8)

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:49 pm
by Vader

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:06 pm
by sgt.null
do you mean this sort of thing - of which I actually like when in the mood.

Ion Dissonance - The Bud Dwyer Effect

Julie says I will listen to almost anything. :biggrin:

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:13 pm
by michaelm
Yup. Lots of cool stuff is considered unmusical to many, but it's very cool music whether anyone thinks it's undeserving of that title or not.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:31 pm
by sgt.null

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:30 am
by Vader
Sunn O)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... tnG6EHh1N4

Drone Doom Metal. Sick shit.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:56 pm
by Ananda

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:58 pm
by michaelm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:38 am
by sgt.null
Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music

pt I

pt II

pt III

pt IV

good luck.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:38 pm
by michaelm
Never got into that, as much as I like noisy guitar drone stuff

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:35 pm
by Wildling
Does Sonic Youth count? Because they're awesome.

Also, old school Skinny Puppy rocks noisily.

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:36 pm
by michaelm
Wildling wrote:Does Sonic Youth count? Because they're awesome.
Oh hell yeah!

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:19 am
by Cord Hurn
Do the punk rock bands like X and Social Distortion count? 'Cause I like them and have made it a point to see them both live.

Does an old-time album like Blue Cheer's Vincebus Eruptum fit in here? 'Cause that kind of noise stresses my speakers to the limit when I turn it up.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABVXW5uEj1w

[Blue Cheer: Second Time Around]