I wonder how Kevin planned the RoD and what happened after

[High Lord Tolkien]

Speculation, people, all speculation!
But after reading some other threads I got to thinking:

So let me set this up.
Most of the Old Lords and Kevins most trusted friends were slaughtered at Mt Thunder.
Foul's armies are rampaging throughout the Land (I'm assuming this even though it is never said. There must have been some kind of impending doom to the people of the Land).
The remaining Demondim are unbeatable by Kevin's Lore (hinted at in RotE). I'm sure that was depressing!

Kevin decides to enact the RoD to "wipe the slate clean" of evil in the Land.

Somehow Kevin contacts Foul and arranges a meeting (how was that done exactly?)

Before or after that he spreads the word to the people of the Land and the Ramen to head for the hills, so to speak.
They all loved and trusted Kevin so they packed up and left.
Fouls must have seen this and approved, knowing the outcome.
The Bloodguard are also ordered out into the mountains.
I wonder what task he gave them to do to trick them?
And why all 500 had to go?
Even the one assigned to Kevin himself?
*That* Bloodguard is solely responsible for the breaking of the Vow.
*HE* failed.

So Kevin enacts the RoD and wipes out the Land, except for:

Garroting Deep and the other Forests?
It sounded like Caerroil Wildwood was still pissed off after all these centuries about the RoD.
I always imagined that the remaining Forests got destroyed/broken like after a devastating hurricane of force mixed with fire and not melting away like under a desert sun of the Sunbane.
The forests were broken and beaten but intact and able to heal under the remaining Forestals care.
I wonder if other Forestals were "killed" in the RoD?
Why else would the New Lords have rumor of Forestals in MorinMoss and Grimmerdhore?
Sounds like there was one at each before the RoD, imho.

Andelain. Andelain seems to have survived just about everything so I imagine after it was blasted into dust it turned green pretty quick.

And, of course, the Sarengrave was beaten back but not destroyed.

(The RoD was far reaching, even the Giants of Seareach were ordered to take shelter on the Sea on thier boats!)

Wow!
Kevin was one powerful bad-ass!
I can't see Trell or Mhoram enacting a Ritual as powerful.

So all the other plants and animals in the Land were wiped out.

Did the Kresh survive in the Sarengrave or did they just luck out by following the Ramen?
What did Kevin think of the fate of the ur-Vile and Cavewrights under Mt Thunder?
Did the RoD wipe them out too?
Were the only ones that survived the ones sheltered in Foul's Creche?

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After the RoD:

The 500 Bloodguard camped out in the mountains realize that they were tricked and head back to the Land.
They don't need food or water so the desolation doesn't effect them.
They search for what happened to Kevin and find nothing, not even the Staff (sound familiar?)

I guess they clean the dust out of Revelstone and...and...and.............................what did they do?
That must have been interesting!

Hundreds of years later as the Land begins to turn green again and people follow the animals back to the Land the Giants show up with the first Ward.
I imagine the Giants were the only source of history the people of the Land had beyond thier oral traditions after the RoD.
The Blodguard, like the Haruchai, aren't reall good teachers as we learn.
I wonder if there were no Giants what the Bloodguard would have done?
Supress all knowledge of Earthpower so there will never be another RoD?
No that's just too damn crazy!

Kevin REALLY stuck it to them good!

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Just some thought about what it might have been like in the Land shortly before and after the RoD.

I welcome your thoughts too!

[Warmark]

Somehow Kevin contacts Foul and arranges a meeting (how was that done exactly?)

i assumed he went to kiril threndor and foul was just there. foul didnt know what kevin was there for until kevin started

The Bloodguard are also ordered out into the mountains.
I wonder what task he gave them to do to trick them?
And why all 500 had to go?
Even the one assigned to Kevin himself?
*That* Bloodguard is solely responsible for the breaking of the Vow.
*HE* failed.

do we know in the time of the Old Lords that the bloodgaurd were assinged to specific lords? perhaps this was a post ritual thing to protect the new lords?

i wonder why kevin could not defeat Fouls armies such as the urviles and cavewights when mhoram did with just a fraction of kevins lore and a fraction of the number of lords

Foul's armies are rampaging throughout the Land

[dlbpharmd]

*That* Bloodguard is solely responsible for the breaking of the Vow.
*HE* failed.

That would've been Tuvor, he was First Mark according to Gilden-Fire.

[I'm Murrin]

I remember reading that it was Foul who challenged Kevin to speak the Ritual of Desecration with him.

[Akasri]

No, I thought Kevin challenged Foul to speak the RoD (seeking to destroy him along with everything else) and Foul accepted knowing the true outcome ahead of time? Don't have my books here at work, but that's the way I remember it.

[MrKABC]

WOW, High Lord Tolkien! Interesting scenario. I have never really given it much thought until now. You paint a very interesting picture!

[I'm Murrin]

No, I thought Kevin challenged Foul to speak the RoD (seeking to destroy him along with everything else) and Foul accepted knowing the true outcome ahead of time? Don't have my books here at work, but that's the way I remember it.

Ah. I think you may be right.

[drew]

Well I guess the ROD could have been similar to a Desert Sun combined with a Sun of Pestilence. But I think it wasn't quite like that. I think it was more like a burning going through all of the stone (which would include all the dirt) Kind of like what Trell started to do. The Forestals could have protected (and obviously did) their own forests-but perhaps died in the process--the reason people had to leave, is because it would have killed or tortured them to the touch. But I think it was probebly short and sweet-not a prolonged damage-that's why things were able to re-grow..plus it didn't hurt the Earthpower-just the Earth

Speculation, people, all speculation!

After the RoD:

The 500 Bloodguard camped out in the mountains realize that they were tricked and head back to the Land.
They don't need food or water so the desolation doesn't effect them.
They search for what happened to Kevin and find nothing, not even the Staff (sound familiar?)

I guess they clean the dust out of Revelstone and...and...and.............................what did they do?
That must have been interesting!

There is awhole thread deicated to this question

kevinswatch.ihugny.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=386

[lurch]

...Very recently I too re-read the re-cant by Stave of the RoD. I also noticed the skant gloss over of the actual deed. I agree, according to Stave's re-telling, Kevin believed he would rid the Land of Foul and groupies btw of the RoD and thus demonstrated the fallacy of being motivated by despair. Lord Foul agreed because he Did know the real outcome ahead of time. Kevin became the Landwaster as a result.
....How did the Land get desecrated by these two? I imagine a " meeting" of similar forces and energys that very quickly escalated to something like a Atomic Bomb. Heck, slow down time enough and even the chain reactions setting an atom bomb off can appear to take awhile.
...We did see the conflagaration between TC and Louisianna Hot Sauce Boy. Perhaps like that, but thousands of times more energetic. Enough to wipe out the Land but not much more. Okay, maybe a Hydrogen bomb.
...Has anyone ever had a personal RoD? The closest to that for me was once at work. It was a bad day. Nothing was going right. Folks were being difficult for no good reason. Then, somebody decided to take advantage of myself,,as in volunteer me for something I had no idea about. The final piece in the chain of events was that the person volunteered me rite infront of me and folks who he knew I wouldn't want to say "No" infront of.
...The explosion was just the reverse. It was an implosion first.( analogous to what actually happens triggering a a-bomb). My vision grew dark around the edges and collapsed to just the smallest dot of lite,,and then the focused energy turned around and went the other way. I stated a " no" that was heard by many. Wisely, I excused myself and said I needed to talk to a HR rep.
...Nope, I never did the Orson Wells as Cane , tearing an apartment to shreds bit or spred the desecration to another person or animal. Okay, yes, I've thrown a hammer or two, only after already having a mini-desecration event on my thumb or finger. And once I recall letting alot of energy free ,vocally, in the middle of a forest on a camping weekend,because a certain other person just had to get to town to buy ,,what else would it be guys?
...So, I make reference to the RoD being on the scale of a personal meltdown, a loss of temper, a fit to be tied, The banks of the mitey river frustration having been breeched. Perhaps, for TC, learning that some one was paying his bills for him, so he wouldn't come into town anymore, was his RoD trigger.