The Mordant's Need Trivia Game (Spoilers!!!)

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Correct :)
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Thank you, Shoe! Here's my question:

What is the one and only image that is found in both Havelock's augury of King Joyse AND the Congery's augury of Mordant's Need? :confused:
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Darsint?

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Good guess, Avatar, but that's not it! Darsint appears in both auguries, it is true, but they are NOT the same images. In Havelock's augury of King Joyse, Darsint appears in the snow-filled countryside of Mordant, with Myste begging him not to kill her. In the Congery's augury of Mordant's Need, Darsint appears within the science-fiction world of Pythas, firing his laser weapon towards some offscreen target.

Only one image is exactly the same in both auguries. What IS that image? :)
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Geraden...going through a mirror?

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Avatar wrote:Geraden...going through a mirror?

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Not that one. That image only appears in the Congery's augury of Mordant's Need, not in Havelock's augury.
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That place with the lava pits outside the walls? (The Perdon's castle?)

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Actually, the lava pits are threatening the Termigan's walled capital city of Sternwall. That image is in the Congery's augury of Mordant's Need, but there is no hint that it's in Havelock's augury of Joyse.

So, sorry, that isn't it! :(
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Old King Joyce sitting victoriously on his throne after his total victory?
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I believe it's: Geraden in a room surrounded by mirrors.
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shadowbinding shoe wrote:Old King Joyce sitting victoriously on his throne after his total victory?
That may be in Havelock's augury, but the only image of Joyse mentioned in the Congery's augury is of him looking over a hop-board game, apparently unable to decide what move to make. So, good try, but that's not it! :?:
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The question: What is the one and only image that is found in both Havelock's augury of King Joyse AND the Congery's augury of Mordant's Need?
wayfriend wrote:I believe it's: Geraden in a room surrounded by mirrors.
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THAT'S THE ONE!!!

(I actually pulled this trivia question out of re-reading the "King Joyse" thread in this forum; the sub-forum Casting The Augury is also fertile ground for finding trivia questions, I have found.)
In chapter 47 of [i]A Man Rides Through[/i] was wrote:"Geraden," King Joyse growled.

Nevertheless Geraden went on, "Why didn't you value him [Nyle] at all? Why didn't you give him something to save him while he was still young enough to save?"

"You exceed yourself," snapped the King. "I have not come all this way to answer such questions."

"But you're going to answer this one," Geraden replied as if he was sure--as if he had the capacity to make King Joyse do what he wanted. The hint of authority in his voice was so subtle that Terisa scarcely heard it. He meant to wrest some kind of truth from his King.

And the King did answer. To her astonishment, he retreated visibly, with a crestfallen air, a look of embarrassment; Geraden had touched an old shame. "Yes," he muttered, "all right. You are right. I always did ignore him. There was always a quality in his dumb need which I disliked. He pitied himself before I could pity him--and so I had no desire to pity him.

"But that is not the reason.

"Artagel was another matter altogether. His talent with the sword was obvious. Anyone would have welcomed him. But you, Geraden--" The King's gaze was angry and hurt at once, as if his own sense of culpability baffled him. "I did not choose you out of a desire to give you precedence over Nyle. I would not have done that to the son of a friend. No, I drew you to me because I had already seen your importance in Havelock's augury."

Geraden hissed a breath; but King Joyse didn't stop.

"The glass which he broke when I was an infant showed you exactly as you appear in the Congery's augury"--for a moment, the King's voice sounded as raw as splintered wood--"surrounded entirely by mirrors in which Images of violence reflected against you. How could I let you be? I had to save you, if that were possible. And if it were not, I had to give you the chance to save me.

"Geraden," King Joyse admitted in frank pain, "on your father's love, I swear to you that I slighted Nyle's yearning only because I was not wise enough to see where it would lead him. The Domne has given me nothing but love and loyalty. In the matter of his son Nyle I failed him."

(Apparently, Havelock made sure to preserve all the pieces of his augury over the years so that Joyse could look at it whenever he wanted.)


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Good one WF. As soon as I read it, I knew you had it. :D

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Cord Hurn wrote:THAT'S THE ONE!!!
I had re-read it recently, otherwise I would have never.
Cord Hurn wrote:Your question, wayfriend!
Oy ...
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Wayfriend :thumbsup: :wave:
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Hahaha, the perils of a correct answer... :D

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Do you think Geraden feels disillusioned to know no one believed in him for himself or his family but because he was prominent in Auguries?
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Question: Where was Nyle between when he was rescued and when he bashed Gart?
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Uh...hiding with his brother?
shadowbinding shoe wrote:Do you think Geraden feels disillusioned to know no one believed in him for himself or his family but because he was prominent in Auguries?
Did he know about the auguries? The Masters one yes, but Havelock's?

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wayfriend wrote:Question: Where was Nyle between when he was rescued and when he bashed Gart?
Didn't they hide him in a storeroom or anteroom or closet?
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