Alien: Covenant

The KWMdB.

Moderators: sgt.null, dANdeLION

Post Reply
User avatar
aTOMiC
Lord
Posts: 24962
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:48 am
Location: Tampa, Florida
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 13 times
Contact:

Alien: Covenant

Post by aTOMiC »

Went to see Alien: Covenant this past weekend and I enjoyed the film in general.

My first viewing of Prometheus left me feeling disappointed in that the story went in a different direction than I had hoped and the plot and characterizations seemed a bit stiff. However after having watched Prometheus a number of times I think I appreciate the film a great deal more as I seem to understand the purpose better.

Covenant does interlock with Prometheus so it is a continuation of the story that will eventually lead to Alien however the new film took a bit of an awkward turn when viewed through the narrative of the previous film. In general though Covenant is more of an Alien film than Prometheus 2 but that appears to be by design.

Its difficult to scare an audience that has grown up on all of the previous films and Covenant seems to struggle with generating the level of genuine tension that the first couple of films in the series did but it doesn't fail completely. I liked the story, the direction and the acting and I'd say that Covenant ranks fairly high on the list Alien films with regard to quality of entertainment. It may even rate as high as #3 but I'm still evaluating what I have seen.
"If you can't tell the difference, what difference does it make?"
Image

"There is tic and toc in atomic" - Neil Peart
User avatar
wayfriend
.
Posts: 20957
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:34 am
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 6 times

Post by wayfriend »

I appreciate you passing that on. I had been seeing reviews going in all directions.
User avatar
Wosbald
A Brainwashed Religious Flunkie
Posts: 6548
Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:35 am
Been thanked: 4 times

Post by Wosbald »

+JMJ+

I thought Prometheus was brilliant. Covenant was almost as good. Or maybe just-as-good. But a mature assessment would prolly have to wait, as TOM said, for further reflection and repeated viewings.

If one didn't like Prometheus, this would prolly be seen as passable Aliens mayhem marred by portentous hokum, albeit hokum with great direction, cinematography, production design, acting, music, etc.


Image
User avatar
peter
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 12204
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:08 am
Location: Another time. Another place.
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by peter »

Haven't seen it yet, but saw a YouTube video that drew attention to all of the unanswered questions and plot inconsistencies that are emerging as they try to stitch Prometheus into the Alien franchise. Suddenly my failure to get what was going on in Prometheus didn't seem so silly after all. I will see the film - but probably not on the big screen. (Nb. I did like Prometheus for all the problems I had with it.)
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!

....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard
User avatar
peter
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 12204
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:08 am
Location: Another time. Another place.
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by peter »

Ok, finally got to see it and in the main was happy with it. At the end it had seemed to answer many of the questions raised by Prometheus - but that notwithstanding, there still remain puzzling elements that need addressing (how for example do we get from the end of Covenant to the beginning of Alien - there isn't many years between them I think, and also, why did the engineers, once having created humanity, decide to snuff it out?) I'm guessing that another film may yet be inserted into the prequel story line to tie things up finally - but in the main I think Covenant has done a good job in pulling what could easily have been two franchises (and might well have been intended to be) into one.
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!

....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'

We are the Bloodguard
User avatar
Cagliostro
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 9360
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:39 pm
Location: Colorado

Post by Cagliostro »

I haven't seen Alien Vs Predator, and I doubt I'll see Alien Vs. Covenant either.
Image
Life is a waste of time
Time is a waste of life
So get wasted all of the time
And you'll have the time of your life
User avatar
wayfriend
.
Posts: 20957
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:34 am
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 6 times

Post by wayfriend »

Alien: hisssssss
Covenant: Don't touch me!
Alien: hisssss :drool:
[Covenant's fingers disolve.]
Covenant: Hellfire! Don't you know I'm a goddamn leper? That doesn't even hurt.
User avatar
sgt.null
Jack of Odd Trades, Master of Fun
Posts: 48331
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:53 am
Location: Brazoria, Texas
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by sgt.null »

wayfriend wrote:Alien: hisssssss
Covenant: Don't touch me!
Alien: hisssss :drool:
[Covenant's fingers disolve.]
Covenant: Hellfire! Don't you know I'm a goddamn leper? That doesn't even hurt.
major props.
Lenin, Marx
Marx, Lennon
Good Dog...
guest2018
Servant of the Land
Posts: 11
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:42 pm

That's it.

Post by guest2018 »

sgt.null wrote:major props.
Image

kevinswatch.ihugny.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25298

Yeesh!
guest2018
Servant of the Land
Posts: 11
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:42 pm

Stardust

Post by guest2018 »

Image
User avatar
Skyweir
Lord of Light
Posts: 27107
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2002 6:27 am
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 21 times

Post by Skyweir »

wayfriend wrote:Alien: hisssssss
Covenant: Don't touch me!
Alien: hisssss :drool:
[Covenant's fingers disolve.]
Covenant: Hellfire! Don't you know I'm a goddamn leper? That doesn't even hurt.
Hahahaha ...

I have to say I was concerned about the idea of genetically engineered Alien. They rake on some of the DNA of their host. It kinda messed up the Alien universe for me. At the end of Alien Covenant theyd already interfaced with human DNA. To me that put a kink in the time space continuum 😏😛

Maybe I need to watch it again - may have missed something.
ImageImageImageImage
keep smiling 😊 :D 😊

'Smoke me a kipper .. I'll be back for breakfast!'
Image

EZBoard SURVIVOR
Lazy Luke
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 1369
Joined: Sun May 06, 2018 9:19 am
Location: Plasticdisguiseville

Post by Lazy Luke »

He [Amok] sang long songs which he claimed to have
learned from the faery Elohim - songs so alien that Covenant could
distinguish neither the words nor sentences, and yet curiously
suggestive, so like moonlight in a forest, that they half entranced
him. And Amok told intimate tales of the stars and heavens,
describing merrily the sky dance as if he had pranced in it himself.
It doesn't really matter whether or not the movie makers had
Thomas Covenant in mind. I don't know about you guys but
I think this passage from the Illearth War strikes a chord,
and deserves a mention.

And the song featured in the film, I'm guessing, more
what I would imagine to be SRD's kinda music ...
Take me home
Country roads


Almost heaven, West Virginia
Blue ridge mountains, Shenandoah river
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, blowing like a breeze

Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mamma
Take me home, country roads

All my memories, gather round her
Miners' lady, stranger to blue water
Dark and dusty, painted on the sky
Misty taste of moonshine, teardrop in my eye

I hear her voice in the morning hour she calls me
The radio reminds me of my home far away
Driving down the road I get a feeling
That I should have been home yesterday, yesterday

Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mamma
Take me home, country roads

Take me home, down country roads
Take me home, down country roads

- John Denver
Post Reply

Return to “Flicks”