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Hunchback Jack wrote:Of whom did Hashi Lebwohl say, "If (he) didn't exist, it would have been necessary to invent him"?
Is it Warden Dios? |W
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No, not Angus ... although that's an intriguing possibility, isn't it?

Hint: I think it's fair to say that it's not one of the main characters, but it is a character that is quite well-known in the world of this series.
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Hunchback Jack wrote:Of whom did Hashi Lebwohl say, "If (he) didn't exist, it would have been necessary to invent him"?
Is it Warden Dios? |W
No, not Warden, either. That would have been my first guess, too.

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Godsen Frik?

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Is it Holt Fasner?
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My first guess is Sixten Vertigus.

Otherwise, The Bill.
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IrrationalSanity wrote:My first guess is Sixten Vertigus.

Otherwise, The Bill.
Correct!
As the first human being ever to lay eyes on an Amnioni, he was a legendary figure. On that occasion, he had demonstrated his willingness to die for his beliefs. In addition his unfailing support of the UMCP, combined with his unswerving opposition to the UMC, gave him an aura of moral authority. He was the "esteemed elder statesman" of the GCES. As Hashi Lebwohl had once said, with his usual double-edged humor, "If Captain Vertigus didn't exist, it would have been necessary to invent him."

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OK. Sticking with Hashi for the moment...

What was the key attribute that made Hashi such an effective liar?
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He had no emotional attachment to the truth?

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Avatar wrote:He had no emotional attachment to the truth?

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I think I may have to give that to you. It isn't the description I was looking for, but now that you bring it up, it "rings" true, as far as being mentioned in the same page or so as what I was thinking about. I don't have my books handy to verify, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Damn. :lol:

Ok...

Who does Warden Dios order to discover who sent the kazes, and who must they inform once they know?

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Did Warden assign Min Donner to investigate, to report to Hashi Lebwohl?

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I think Warden orders Hashi Lebwohl and Lane Harbinger to investigate, and to inform Min Donner about their research results.
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Hashi is one of the investigators, but the other is neither Min nor Lane, nor were they to report to Min. :D

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Is Chief Mandich the other investigator and Koina the person to whom they report?
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And SD has it. :D

Your question. :D

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Shortly after Min returns to UMCPHQ from visiting Captain Vertigus, she meets with Warden. In that conversation, he tells her, in part:
...it's the only lever I have with the Dragon. It's the kind of collusion he understands. It implicates me. More than anything I've ever done, that convinced him to trust me -- convinced him to let me make my own decisions.
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Savor Dam wrote:Shortly after Min returns to UMCPHQ from visiting Captain Vertigus, she meets with Warden. In that conversation, he tells her, in part:
...it's the only lever I have with the Dragon. It's the kind of collusion he understands. It implicates me. More than anything I've ever done, that convinced him to trust me -- convinced him to let me make my own decisions.
What is Warden referring to?
Perhaps Warden is here referring to the development of the mutagen immunity drug and suppressing the knowledge that such a drug exists? :?:
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I believe that that is indeed what he is referring to. :)

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Yes, we have a winner.
I didn't quash Intertech's research. I took it away. The order I signed was just a sham. I took the research and gave it to Hashi. He completed it himself.
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That was my idea. Fasner wanted to stop the whole project. I persuaded him to let Hashi finish it -- to let me have it and keep it secret.

But it's the only lever I have with the Dragon. It's the kind of collusion he understands. It implicates me. More than anything I've ever done, that convinced him to trust me -- convinced him to let me make my own decisions.
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