The Mordant's Need Trivia Game (Spoilers!!!)

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Cord Hurn wrote:1) Lebbick was forced to watch his wife be raped by Alends

2) He was freed by King Joyse

3) He was allowed to take his revenge upon the Alend garrison commander.
I told you I was going to be picky
:twisted: This answer is very very close. But I am looking for a little bit more from the combination of 2 and 3 - that is my hint for now. I am not saying 2 and 3 are wrong...just looking for a little bit more...... I will provide another hint if you are scratching your head what you are missing.... [just smallish detail I consider important]
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Good job on making it a challenge for me, Sam! I'm not easy to stump when it comes to Mordant's Need. I'll give your trivia question some more thought. :!:
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Let me know when/if you need another hint :twisted:
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1) Lebbick was a farmer who had been married for ten days when a garrison commander of the Alend army took him and his wife prisoner, and Lebbick was forced to watch his wife be raped by Alends

2) He was freed by King Joyse and was allowed to take his revenge upon the Alend garrison commander

3) When Joyse saw the enthusiasm Lebbick had for punishing the commander, he put him to work as a soldier, and Lebbick gained promotions in that line of work because he was good at it.
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Cord Hurn wrote: 3) When Joyse saw the enthusiasm Lebbick had for punishing the commander, he put him to work as a soldier, and Lebbick gained promotions in that line of work because he was good at it.
Cord Hurn has it! Your question.

Just in case anyone missed the part I considered "missing" I was hoping to see something along the lines of enthusiasm or as the actual book quotes - zeal. To me that was a crucial missing detail. Lebbick could have just stabbed him in the back and went on his way but what caught the kings attention:

"The Castellan's voice sank as he spoke. "When he observed the zeal with which I took revenge upon the commander, he gave me work which put that zeal to good use."

Anyways Cord Hurn - your question.
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Thank you, Sam! Certainly, "zeal" is a great word to describe the way Lebbick is protective of his King and country. Lebbick is certainly one of the most memorable SRD characters, and his zeal certainly has something to do with that.

My question:
When Queen Madin is told by Terisa and Geraden that her husband Joyse actually knows what he's doing and is feigning weakness, she determines to leave Vale House to rejoin him at Orison. How many days does she say she will make that journey in?
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Where is Irrational Sanity, shadowbinding shoe, Avatar, Hunchback Jack...or someone else that may not typically show up down here?

....I have no idea....
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Not something I know off the top of my head, but the number three springs to mind.
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IrrationalSanity wrote:Not something I know off the top of my head, but the number three springs to mind.


You've got it, IrrationalSanity! "Three" is the answer! :letsparty: :nanaparty: :bwave: :yeehaa: :yeehaa: :yeehaa: :twirl: :beer:


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Haha, that's why I wasn't here...all I was gonna do was guess randomly, so thought I'd give anybody who might actually know a chance first. :D

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Well, it was an educated guess, not a WAG. I was confident enough to share it, at least. :)

Anyway, sticking with the Vale House scene. What shifted about Terisa's impression of the King's daughters once she met the Queen and Torrent?
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Who each of the daughters took after?

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Avatar wrote:Who each of the daughters took after?

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Hmm... Could you be more specific? Before and after, please.
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Haha, don't think so without guessing, will give it a go if nobody else has any ideas? :D

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IrrationalSanity wrote:
Avatar wrote:Who each of the daughters took after?

--A
Hmm... Could you be more specific? Before and after, please.
I think Terisa assumed when first meeting Elega and Myste, that they looked like their mother Queen Madin more than they resembled their father King Joyse.

Once she's met Queen Madin and Torrent, however, Terisa realizes that Elega and Myste favor Joyse in looks, and it's Torrent that looks more like Madin than Joyse.
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Avatar wrote:Who each of the daughters took after?

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Hmm... Could you be more specific? Before and after, please.
I think Terisa assumed when first meeting Elega and Myste, that they looked like their mother Queen Madin more than they resembled their father King Joyse.

Once she's met Queen Madin and Torrent, however, Terisa realizes that Elega and Myste favor Joyse in looks, and it's Torrent that looks more like Madin than Joyse.
Ooh, close. But not quite. I'll say the end result is correct, but the original impression/assumption not so much.

(The "right" answer was explicitly called out in the text, so I'm going to make sure I have it handy...)
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Oh, perhaps it's that Terisa earlier thought that Elega took after Madin and Myste took after Joyse.
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Cord Hurn wrote:Oh, perhaps it's that Terisa earlier thought that Elega took after Madin and Myste took after Joyse.
:letsparty: :nanaparty:

You have it!
Neither Terisa nor Geraden sat. He may have stayed upright out of courtesy, but her thoughts were elsewhere. At last, she could see Queen Madin clearly, and what she saw kept her on her feet.

Until that moment, she hadn't realized how much she was expecting the Queen to resemble Elega. From Terisa's point of view, Myste favored her father. Myste's laugh was so much like King Joyse's smile that the resemblance seemed more important than any differences. Simply on that basis, Terisa had assumed that Queen Madin would prove to be the parent Elega favored.

It was clear now, however, in the light of the fire and the bright chandelier and the surrounding lamps, that Terisa's assumptions were mistaken. One good look at the Queen made it plain that both Elega and Myste in fact resembled their father.
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Your taking the extra time and trouble to include the relevant Mordant's Need quote is noted and appreciated, IrrationalSanity! I love Donaldson's writing, and tend to think posts are much improved with samples of his work included.

My thanks to you, and I will try to have another Mordant's Need trivia question up before the weekend arrives. :yeehaa:
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Cord Hurn wrote:Your taking the extra time and trouble to include the relevant Mordant's Need quote is noted and appreciated, IrrationalSanity! I love Donaldson's writing, and tend to think posts are much improved with samples of his work included.

My thanks to you, and I will try to have another Mordant's Need trivia question up before the weekend arrives. :yeehaa:
You're quite welcome. I agree that his writing brings in so much detail, yet none of it is wasted. Even this revelation is foreshadowed early on where it is observed that Elega and Myste looked like "indoor and outdoor versions of each other" (or words to that effect).
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