Poll for best writer of high/heroic fantasy

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Who is the best writer of high/heroic fantasy?

Tolkien
12
38%
Donaldson
14
44%
George R. R. Martin
4
13%
Robert Jordan
0
No votes
Ursula Le Guin
0
No votes
Patricia McKillip
1
3%
Tad Williams
0
No votes
Stephen King
1
3%
Terry Goodkind
0
No votes
Terry Brooks
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 32

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Just for kicks...
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I considered R. Jordan for a second but Donaldson dominated the poll for me.
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I'd consider Donaldson the best writer of fantasy, but how are we defining high fantasy?
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What about Erikson and Kay? :? (I would, personally, replace Jordan and Brooks with them...but that's just me...)
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No, too many possibilities to vote. Donaldson, Tolkein and Jordan for epic proportions, but hell, King's DT is awesome.

Just too many.

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Post by Roland of Gilead »

It has long been a three-way tie for me, between Tolkien, Martin and King. Donaldson just slightly behind.

King took the lead, though, with his masterful conclusion to the Dark Tower.

Now Martin and Donaldson will try to equal his achievement.

Let the good times roll!!!!! :P
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I've always seen it thus, but haven't said anything yet since it's my poll and I don't want to sway anyone:

1. Tolkien



2. Donaldson
3. Martin
4. Tad Williams (for Memory, Sorry and Thorn - Otherland isn't high fantasy)

Between 2, 3 and 4 it's pretty close. But Tolkien has always, for me at least, been the Shakespeare of the genre, sitting quite comfortably on a throne that he'll never get knocked off of. Hence that nifty little visual I gave, separating him from the rest. :D

Jordan used to in my top five, but talk about prolixity - jeez. End the darn thing already!!! I'm at a dangerous point with what started out as a land breaking fantasy series - I almost don't care.

I was very glad to see Martin get a vote on a Donaldson bulletin board. I doubt SRD would get many votes on a Martin board.
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I voted for Martin However there is virtually no difference IMHO between the two. Although at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of style, they are both geniuses and masters of the art. I could just as well have voted for SRD. Fundamentally it's a dead heat. :)
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I voted for Donaldson. Each reader is affected by the style and events portrayed by an author differently. An example I can give is that though I'm only just now finishing the first Dark Tower book "the Gunslinger" I can tell that that series of books is not for me. King has a way of telling a story (even one dealing with epic fantasy) that makes me feel queasy and creepy. I have George R.R. Martin's A Game Of Thrones and though I've only read a few chapters I can tell he's going to be one of my favorite authors. It just all depends on your perspective and tastes.
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For me it will come down to how Martin and Donaldson end their respective series. If he ever publishes A Feast for Crows, and it's good as I think it will be (based on the past three), my opinion between him and SRD could flip-flop.
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Try reading Wolfe's The Knight and tell me he doesn't deserve to be on that list.
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That was a terrific book. Unfortunately it went way over people's head, as his method of storytelling wasn't (isn't) straightforward and conventional.

Brooks, Goodkind, and Eddings don't deserve to be on that list, but I wanted to see if there would actually be anyone to vote for them.
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Atomic, The Gunslinger is not a fair test of the relative merits of The Dark Tower. Continue the series and I guarantee your opinion will rise.

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Donaldsoooooooooon!

Who are the others again? ;)
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Disjointed?!?! I thought it had been amputated! ;)
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His disjointed arm is scrathing his bum :P
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Roland of Gilead wrote:King took the lead, though, with his masterful conclusion to the Dark Tower.
You mean DT7 is the last one? Awesome! I must admit that I wondered if he'd ever manage to finish it. Now I just have to get 5, 6 and 7.

On the other hand, I'm sort of sad that it has to end. It's without doubt (in my mind anyway) the best stuff he's ever written. And definitley ranks with my top series of all time.

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Everybody I meet lately tells me to read the Dark Tower series, but to be different (like Potter and Buff) I refuse!!!!!!!
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Post by Myste »

It's a tough call. My top four are Tolkien, Donaldson, Martin, and McKillip. In spite of the fact that they all write "high fantasy," their strengths are so different--Tolkien for world-building, Martin for plot, Donaldson for character development, and McKillip for sheer style-- that it's kind of tough to compare them. So I voted for McKillip, to get the ladies on the board and in recognition of Raederle, who's simply one of the best female fantasy characters of all time.
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