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Gadget nee Jemcheeta
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I definately see where you're coming from, don't get me wrong, I'm only 21 and highschool is not a too distant memory. I don't want you to think I'm that much of an idealist, and the selfishness of my generation is pretty ugly.
I just don't think that the answer is in telling kids they aren't special. I think it's more likely that we could do better by instilling responsibility to do well, to improve themselves... maybe examples of how much happier people are when they are -less- selfish. I firmly believe that the most selfish, self important are generally the least happy.
Of course, I could be wrong. Or maybe I'm just being self important
I just don't think that the answer is in telling kids they aren't special. I think it's more likely that we could do better by instilling responsibility to do well, to improve themselves... maybe examples of how much happier people are when they are -less- selfish. I firmly believe that the most selfish, self important are generally the least happy.
Of course, I could be wrong. Or maybe I'm just being self important
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Jeezum crow, sorry Av. There needs to be a verb to describe the action of taking a non-close thread and turning it into a close thread. Like "Beware, this thread has been CLOSED" or "Dangit, someone Tanked the thread" if it turns into a think tank thread... heh. I kill me!
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I've met children who are brought up to believe that they are 'wonderful and special'.
In fact, I have a special, unique term for them: "spoiled brats".
I believe the technical name for it is 'special flower syndrome'.
More seriously: teaching kids they are different/better than everyone else is not a good way to go about instilling selflessness or altruism. Teaching kids that they are a part of a community, no more or less worthy than any other member of that community, would be much more beneficial and realistic.
In fact, I have a special, unique term for them: "spoiled brats".
I believe the technical name for it is 'special flower syndrome'.
More seriously: teaching kids they are different/better than everyone else is not a good way to go about instilling selflessness or altruism. Teaching kids that they are a part of a community, no more or less worthy than any other member of that community, would be much more beneficial and realistic.
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Gadget nee Jemcheeta
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I think that the two issues might not be mutually exclusive though
I think the 'special flower syndrome' develops when a parent gives good ego reinforcement, but bad behavior reinforcement. See what I mean?
If a child is taught that they are special, but reprimanded when they act as though they are better than others, I think the results would be more positive then the reprimands alone.
I think the 'special flower syndrome' develops when a parent gives good ego reinforcement, but bad behavior reinforcement. See what I mean?
If a child is taught that they are special, but reprimanded when they act as though they are better than others, I think the results would be more positive then the reprimands alone.
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Some children are better than others. How can they help acting like it?JemCheeta wrote:I think the 'special flower syndrome' develops when a parent gives good ego reinforcement, but bad behavior reinforcement. See what I mean?
If a child is taught that they are special, but reprimanded when they act as though they are better than others, I think the results would be more positive then the reprimands alone.
But I see your point about the good ego/bad behavior reinforcement, Jem, and I agree with that.
The problem is, children in groups are like wolf packs. They feel compelled to see if they can tear down the top dog. It's a survival instinct from the ancient past. It has to be trained out of them or they will act the same as adults.
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Thanks for the offer Duchess, but I don't mind.
There is a topic, (Thanks UrLord) in the Tank which deals with this, so if everybody could just take the discussion over there, that'd be great.
No need to split it, unless you feel it too inappropriate for The Hall. Up to you actually.
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There is a topic, (Thanks UrLord) in the Tank which deals with this, so if everybody could just take the discussion over there, that'd be great.
No need to split it, unless you feel it too inappropriate for The Hall. Up to you actually.
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My work is so deep that it resonates with people without it ever being posted! Ha-HA! Wow, this is my 401st post. My how time flies.
I definately need to start writing again, or at least posting some of my old work. I need to be involved in a creative process again. Although philosophical discourse is kind of self creating, and that has to count for something. A swift turn of logic is as beautiful as poetry to me.
Sometimes I read some of the things in the close and want to applaud
Wow, this is my 401st post. My how time flies. I definately need to start writing again, or at least posting some of my old work. I need to be involved in a creative process again. Although philosophical discourse is kind of self creating, and that has to count for something. A swift turn of logic is as beautiful as poetry to me.
Sometimes I read some of the things in the close and want to applaud
Start where you are,
use what you have,
do what you can.
use what you have,
do what you can.
Although philosophical discourse is kind of self creating, and that has to count for something. A swift turn of logic is as beautiful as poetry to me.
Sometimes I read some of the things in the close and want to applaud[/quote[/quote]
Yes, me too. In fact, I often do. and smile.
I agree. and they say you should write something every single day.
Even if it is just a line.
I enjoy your words, Jem.
Sometimes I read some of the things in the close and want to applaud
[/quote[/quote]Yes, me too. In fact, I often do. and smile.
I agree. and they say you should write something every single day.
Even if it is just a line.
I enjoy your words, Jem.
"let the storm of thought spend itself. Presently you will arrive upon a calm sea."......Walter Lanyon
Re: Ennui
Avatar wrote:Ennui
The taste of
Time passing, faintly
Metallic in your mouth.
Mirrors flashing back
Faces,
Already drained of newness
And the same stories
Recycled again
And again.
Stale venues
For the sharing of souls
And fears
That cry out to be spoken.
The clock ticks
Midnight
And no magical changes.
The sun threatens to rise
On a day you’ve
Just Lived.
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18/11/1998
i want a book of these things Av!!
i love your work!!! make a book, make a book!!!
The taste of
Time passing, faintly
Metallic in your mouth.
phew.
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~