The Thomas Covenant Chronicles: The Game
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A Covenant game eh? Id have to have it be as environmentaly interactive as MGS 3 or Uru, etc. . . . id like to be able to complete most of the long periods of traveling like in the books.
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Really HILARIOUS ideas, all...'specially The Pumpkin King though....Ah, Excel Saga, I can't believe someone was weird enough to create you...
I'm thinking that if we have to have angsty character development, Final Fantasy style is the way to go...who is Squall but the embodiment of angst? Cinema scenes, summons, mini-games...like the Baradakas "Test of Trust": "Mash the X button. If you can get the Truth meter filled before the Woodhelvennin snipe you, you pass and get rockin' items!"
I would so play this game....
I'm thinking that if we have to have angsty character development, Final Fantasy style is the way to go...who is Squall but the embodiment of angst? Cinema scenes, summons, mini-games...like the Baradakas "Test of Trust": "Mash the X button. If you can get the Truth meter filled before the Woodhelvennin snipe you, you pass and get rockin' items!"

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Excel Saga is amazing.fightingmyinstincts wrote:Really HILARIOUS ideas, all...'specially The Pumpkin King though....Ah, Excel Saga, I can't believe someone was weird enough to create you...
I'm thinking that if we have to have angsty character development, Final Fantasy style is the way to go...who is Squall but the embodiment of angst? Cinema scenes, summons, mini-games...like the Baradakas "Test of Trust": "Mash the X button. If you can get the Truth meter filled before the Woodhelvennin snipe you, you pass and get rockin' items!"I would so play this game....
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But the dub makes me want to swallow a fork pointy end first. We tried to watch the dub ONE TIME, one time only, got as far as "Hail, Ilpalazzo!" and had to stop. It's better in japanese, without question. And yes Ilpalazzo is awesome. Menchi's cool too.
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The sub is king. I can't STAND the dub. I tried it once, and couldn't get past that either, actually. Excel's voice grates on my brain like a fork on a chalkboard. It all just works better in Japanese.fightingmyinstincts wrote:But the dub makes me want to swallow a fork pointy end first. We tried to watch the dub ONE TIME, one time only, got as far as "Hail, Ilpalazzo!" and had to stop. It's better in japanese, without question. And yes Ilpalazzo is awesome. Menchi's cool too.
I prefer 99% of my anime subtitled.
The one exception I can think of is Cowboy Bebop. In that case, for some reason the dub works better.
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Given the strong moral themes in the books, I think the only way we can do it justice is by getting the team who wrote the "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic" RPG. The player can face the same moral dilemmas as Covenant, and steer the story towards different endings depending on the choices he makes.
Here's a sample dialogue:
[Prothall's speech the Council of Lords: "Your token, Covenant. The necessity for judgement is upon us. You must choose between the Land and the Land's Despiser."]
A - "I will bear the ring, though I do not know the way."
B - "I can't use it! I'm a leper!"
C - "Sure, I'll defeat Lord Foul....for a price."
D - "Hahaha! Fools! Crush you all! Be Lord Covenant!"
You choose: D
Mhoram frowns slightly. "Such maniacal actions can only work to strengthen Despite."
- You gain 20 Dark Side points.
- You gain 1000 experience points.
- You learn a new white gold power: Vortex of Trepidation.
Here's a sample dialogue:
[Prothall's speech the Council of Lords: "Your token, Covenant. The necessity for judgement is upon us. You must choose between the Land and the Land's Despiser."]
A - "I will bear the ring, though I do not know the way."
B - "I can't use it! I'm a leper!"
C - "Sure, I'll defeat Lord Foul....for a price."
D - "Hahaha! Fools! Crush you all! Be Lord Covenant!"
You choose: D
Mhoram frowns slightly. "Such maniacal actions can only work to strengthen Despite."
- You gain 20 Dark Side points.
- You gain 1000 experience points.
- You learn a new white gold power: Vortex of Trepidation.
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Should there be a game? NO! the plot for the story is to set on 1 track. there would not be enough action in the game. Unless you had it so you could play more than just Covenant the player would quickly become bored. even then you wouldn't be able to DO anything until the very end. and thats STILL not easy to give controll to someone else. Events have to happen a certain way. A game based on the story just wouldn't work.
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Of course there can be a game. How can you say that a "game based on the story just wouldn't work"? Based is the key word there. Ideas are taken from the book, and used to create the game world in which you will play. The ultimate goal remains the same: defeat Despite and save the Land.
Key battles and journeys can be the playing fields.
Certainly compromises would have to be made.
I completely agree with Matrixman on this one, an FPS all the way.
Primary weapon: Triock's stone knife.
Secondary weapon: Lord's staff
Other weapons (to be found along the way):
Creator:
Using any of the game engines Matrixman mentioned, or even using the RTCW engine or Halflife engine, this can be done. And, most already have SDK's. This game is a definate possibility. And it can follow as close to the storyline of the book as we want.
@Lord Defile: These games all use scripts and triggers either singly or in conjunction with each other to force gameplay in the direction the level-designer chooses for the player. In order to proceed to the next level, the first must be completed in its entirety. In that way, the game can follow, and therefore be based on the books.
Key battles and journeys can be the playing fields.
Certainly compromises would have to be made.
I completely agree with Matrixman on this one, an FPS all the way.
Primary weapon: Triock's stone knife.
Secondary weapon: Lord's staff
Other weapons (to be found along the way):
- cling-shot ( a clingor slingshot that would bring your enemies closer so you don't have to chase them down)
orcrest
ability to use the white gold ring
Krill
Illearth Stone fragment (careful...use of this drains your health.)
Creator:
- Covenant
Waynhim
Woodhelven
Stonedownor
Elena
Lena
Mhoram
Raman
Hamako
Linden
- ur-vile
Marid
Raver
Hoerkin (pushing it...but would make a cool skin for a game character)
Drool
Foul
Using any of the game engines Matrixman mentioned, or even using the RTCW engine or Halflife engine, this can be done. And, most already have SDK's. This game is a definate possibility. And it can follow as close to the storyline of the book as we want.
@Lord Defile: These games all use scripts and triggers either singly or in conjunction with each other to force gameplay in the direction the level-designer chooses for the player. In order to proceed to the next level, the first must be completed in its entirety. In that way, the game can follow, and therefore be based on the books.

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I mean it wouldn't work. not with Covenant as a character. Pretty much the only way for the idea to work would be to take a Lord of the Rings: The Third Age approach and have totally knew characters and a different story line. As Covenant the path would be to strict. I mean think about it: What kind of game would it be? the people of the land are peace-loving and Covenant refuses to fight. The lords don't show up until way late in the book and they don't do anything until even later. Th warward isn't even mentioned the book until almost the very end of the first book and they aren't in it until the third. Can't be an action game but the people who would want to play it would want an action game! Again, it would not work.
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Once again, I must disagree. The game would be based on the book. That does not mean it is going to follow every aspect of the book. You break the book down into its most basic elements, choose those that would make a good game, and build the game from there. The goal is still the same, chronological order can still be kept. Some battles (in fact, most battles) can be recreated.
Of course (and this should not even need to be said) additions to the game that are not originally in the book are needed. Such as enemies along the way to the Soulsease.
But I say to you it can be done, and the interest of both those who have and who have not read the books can be peaked.
If I could put a team together, I would prove my point by actually generating a level or two for this game.
Of course (and this should not even need to be said) additions to the game that are not originally in the book are needed. Such as enemies along the way to the Soulsease.
But I say to you it can be done, and the interest of both those who have and who have not read the books can be peaked.
If I could put a team together, I would prove my point by actually generating a level or two for this game.

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want
to test a man's character, give him power.
--Abraham Lincoln
Excerpt from Animal Songs Never Written
"Hey, dad," croaked the vulture, "what are you eating?"
"Carrion, my wayward son."
"Will there be pieces when you are done?"
Even with Covenant strange 'pascifism' outlook on his disbelief, the game would still be good enough to take the effort to make it. Im thinking that the game, not to beat on a dead horse, would be more like the Metal Gear games more like interactive movies than multiple choice storylines. It would have a single track motive, sure, but there are enough aspects of the books to convert into a great little game.
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I agree that a game could be made. However, not the way you say. You make it sound like he can just use the white magic whenever he wants. That is not so. In fact, if memory serves he refused to use the ring, let alone he didn't have the power to control it. Yes the story could be taken back to its basic elements but you are not going basic enough. Covenant as a character should be utterly out of the question. Entirely new characters would have to be created(such as a lord-to-be or even another from our world). Monsters/enemies could be the same but the path would also be changed.
Example:
The journey begins at Trothgard. A prodigy student has successfully called a man from our world to this site. He and his friend from the warward are discovered to have done this and must travel to Revelstone to make amends. along the way they encounter all the little unpleasantries and become caught up in the struggle for the Land's survival.
They could meet Covenant along the way and certain events in the book could affect them but the bookl characters should have no serious effect on the game. They could meet the council of Lords but not travel with them, for instance. Do you see what I'm getting at?
u]White gold should be completely out of the question[/u]
Example:
The journey begins at Trothgard. A prodigy student has successfully called a man from our world to this site. He and his friend from the warward are discovered to have done this and must travel to Revelstone to make amends. along the way they encounter all the little unpleasantries and become caught up in the struggle for the Land's survival.
They could meet Covenant along the way and certain events in the book could affect them but the bookl characters should have no serious effect on the game. They could meet the council of Lords but not travel with them, for instance. Do you see what I'm getting at?
u]White gold should be completely out of the question[/u]
if those with power are guilty, is it possible to be guilty yet powerless?
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I bumped an old thread for a PC TC mod I was creating for Neverwinter Nights. I spent untold hours creating, modeling, scripting, doing voice acting for and although initial reaction was high, only ONE person actually downloaded and tested the mod out. If there's enough interest, I may be convinced to continue the mod to at least finish part 1. Read the thread entitled "TC PC game" to get all the info on it.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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