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Also, I think of this: How could Linden have learned to love Jeremiah so well unless there was a Jeremiah to love? His mind is hard to reach, but not gone. Linden could not love so deeply unless there was something there to respond to.JemCheeta wrote:So there was obviously some awareness going on in Jeremiah's head, or else he wouldn't be building all that stuff...
JemCheeta wrote:But if Lord Foul has access to a white ring, he can probably use the seizures for some time travel... right?
i think avatar may be right -- if any of you play D&D, then you would know that sometimes the DM will give details that have no hidden meaning, (i.e. "you feel a cold breeze on the back of your neck") just to screw with the players and see what they do.Avatar wrote:I'm probably wrong, but sometimes a description is just a description. It doesn't have to be some immense, hidden foreshadowing.
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I don't think so.Wayfriend wrote: Why would he need the white ring? For surely if Esmer is unhindered by the linear restrictions of time (and, by the way, I love Attanasio's term "timeloose" in this regard.) ... if Esmer is timeloose, would not Kastenessen be? Would not Foul be capable of it? Does he not demonstrate an uncanny knowledge of future events from time to time?
While Foul may have the ability to control the Earthpower, it's fundamentally alien to his nature, because he is not a creature of the Earth. He existed outside the Arch of Time and before it was created. In his own way, he is even more alien than Covenant and Linden, who at least came from an Earth.Avatar wrote:While the second bit makes sense, about Foul being cautious about changing the past, I'm curious as to why you're so sure that Foul isn't a being of EarthPower.
Is there anything that explicitly says so? Without thinking about it, I'd call him pretty EarthPowerful. We know that the value of EarthPower rests in the person wielding it. In itself, it is as amoral as anything else.
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I agree. Earthpower was created, along with the Land, by the Creator. Foul was not. Therefore he is categorically not a being of Earthpower. We know he can use Earthpower, since he was able to be a Lord on Kevin's council; however, I'm inclined to believe he's able to use Earthpower for the same reason he was able to pass a test of truth (according to Baradakas): He surpasses it. Foul is way above Earthpower, on a par with the being who created Earthpower.Variol Farseer wrote:While Foul may have the ability to control the Earthpower, it's fundamentally alien to his nature, because he is not a creature of the Earth. He existed outside the Arch of Time and before it was created. In his own way, he is even more alien than Covenant and Linden, who at least came from an Earth.
That's my theory, at any rate.
Except for Covenant.High Lord Tolkien wrote:...But there is really nothing on the Earth (Land-earth) like Foul.
I think he passed the test of truth not through manipulating Earthpower but by surpassing it.
Or just being able to exist without it...
Exactly. As I recall, the test of truth is only accurate when the testee doesn't surpass the tester. Foul surpassed not only the tester but the whole system.High Lord Tolkien wrote:I think he passed the test of truth not through manipulating Earthpower but by surpassing it.
They're not really that similar in nature, IMO...ur-bane wrote:Except for Covenant.High Lord Tolkien wrote:...But there is really nothing on the Earth (Land-earth) like Foul.
I think he passed the test of truth not through manipulating Earthpower but by surpassing it.
Or just being able to exist without it...![]()