...I've already made my point. See posts with Dragonlily.
,,The problem with your list of activities..is...that most of them are performed as a singular experience. pac man? They do not have the full range of inter-action involved to rise to the metaphoric value level that sex has with Life....sorry..binky bites the big one......MEL
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Sex is very good and a great cause for joy.
But there is so much more to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And to me at least, a man is the sum of a lot more than just his gonads. Inteligence, laughter, kindness, a love of beauty, shared interests -- those are a lot more important.
If I were to pick out a man tomorrow with whom to spend the rest of my life his mind and heart are a lot more important than his genitals and physical appearance.
Physical appearance can change. Medical problems can take away potency. But if a man has a loving heart, a keen mind, and a love of laughter and beauty he will always be worth having in your life.
But there is so much more to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And to me at least, a man is the sum of a lot more than just his gonads. Inteligence, laughter, kindness, a love of beauty, shared interests -- those are a lot more important.
If I were to pick out a man tomorrow with whom to spend the rest of my life his mind and heart are a lot more important than his genitals and physical appearance.
Physical appearance can change. Medical problems can take away potency. But if a man has a loving heart, a keen mind, and a love of laughter and beauty he will always be worth having in your life.
Love as thou wilt.
I would also like to point out that wanting the "Right One" more than just another one-night stand is not the province of all males - just the ones that haven't lived enough to appreciate how much better sex can be in a long term relationship with said "Right One".
I fully understand the "Just as There Is No Bad Pizza..." theory, but the difference can be truly staggering - after a while, it's just kinda "You know, if we're not going to be building anything here, I'll just stick to the self-gratification, if that's alright..."
I fully understand the "Just as There Is No Bad Pizza..." theory, but the difference can be truly staggering - after a while, it's just kinda "You know, if we're not going to be building anything here, I'll just stick to the self-gratification, if that's alright..."
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Well said...
D of M...Yes , very true,,but please allow me to ask some rhetorical questions:...Did you believe the same when you were 15 or 22, or 35, etc?
..................How many of those,," life is so much more than that"..is the result of having sex,,ie,,children,,grandchildren? and those are the easy ones.
................And related to the above question, does the joy and fun of the sex experience transcend in to the more mundane experiences?
Again,,our bodies and minds go thru a metamorphisis during our teens. Anybody want to deny that? Anybody want to deny the physical development manifested by the metamorphisis? The same reigns we put on our drives,,while teenagers,,or the reigns we do not put on our drives..ripple thru the rest of our lives. Invoke bell curve here to stop oneself from going over the edge.
..Our applied passions to our existance, our lives, are reflective, of our sex drive and applied or non application passion. It seems to me every Madison Ave type knows that. You don't sell the steak, you sell the sizzle, and the sizzle is passion..get the buyer to feel the passion. Life to be lived has to have passion...Any car will get you from point a to point B,,but look at this beauty..ain't She something?..(allow me at this time to digress. Most current models of cars are UGLY..there is very little in their syle and design that evokes any stirring of feeling for beauty. Thank goodness there are still a few European designers who can design a car that is a beauty to behold and thus sexy).
Anyway,,the sex drive launches us out of childhood and into adulthood. We don't stop evolving at 18. The sex drive doesn't run out of gas at 22,,and it carries us to lands of spectacular and fantastic as well as despair and disapointment...Isn't that Life? Being honest about sex allows to be honest about the rest of life.......MEL..ps..Plissken..how in the world do you know who the rite one is if not out there finding out?...MEL
..................How many of those,," life is so much more than that"..is the result of having sex,,ie,,children,,grandchildren? and those are the easy ones.
................And related to the above question, does the joy and fun of the sex experience transcend in to the more mundane experiences?
Again,,our bodies and minds go thru a metamorphisis during our teens. Anybody want to deny that? Anybody want to deny the physical development manifested by the metamorphisis? The same reigns we put on our drives,,while teenagers,,or the reigns we do not put on our drives..ripple thru the rest of our lives. Invoke bell curve here to stop oneself from going over the edge.
..Our applied passions to our existance, our lives, are reflective, of our sex drive and applied or non application passion. It seems to me every Madison Ave type knows that. You don't sell the steak, you sell the sizzle, and the sizzle is passion..get the buyer to feel the passion. Life to be lived has to have passion...Any car will get you from point a to point B,,but look at this beauty..ain't She something?..(allow me at this time to digress. Most current models of cars are UGLY..there is very little in their syle and design that evokes any stirring of feeling for beauty. Thank goodness there are still a few European designers who can design a car that is a beauty to behold and thus sexy).
Anyway,,the sex drive launches us out of childhood and into adulthood. We don't stop evolving at 18. The sex drive doesn't run out of gas at 22,,and it carries us to lands of spectacular and fantastic as well as despair and disapointment...Isn't that Life? Being honest about sex allows to be honest about the rest of life.......MEL..ps..Plissken..how in the world do you know who the rite one is if not out there finding out?...MEL
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You've hinted at your past before, and I am so sorry to hear of this. I'm sure something wonderful awaits you on the horizon.
That's the EDGE OF THE WORLD!!!!
And big scary dragons live over the edge!
and EDGE may live over the edge of the world!!!!
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I'm sure AWESOME things are right around the corner for you. Some lucky girl is going to sweep you up and make you a happy man some day--maybe sooner than you think!
You deserve only GOOD things.
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That was the best post, Avatar.ChoChiyo wrote:You are a sweetie and I love you.
I'm sure AWESOME things are right around the corner for you. Some lucky girl is going to sweep you up and make you a happy man some day--maybe sooner than you think!
You deserve only GOOD things.
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Continuing with the Sex as Pizza analogy: When I was young, all pizza was good. I went to every pizza place I could find, from the high end places that had special tricks to the low rent quickie joints where you wish for a fork and some extra napkins so you don't get any on you.
It was all pretty good.
Then, I started making pizza at home. The first couple of tries were awkward and clumsy, and ended up about the same as the stuff I was used to getting. But things continued to improve, as I kept working at it.
Nowadays, my pizza outstrips anything that could be purchased - it's taken years, but I've perfected a Chicago Style Stuffed that makes me realise that those other pizzas weren't even pies. Sometimes I keep it simple, and it's very, very good. Other times, when I've got time, I throw everything in the fridge in it as well as a few tricks I picked up from those high-end joints.
Either way, you're going to need that fork, not because it's so cheap and greasy - because it's so damned deep. But forget about the napkins.
It's going to get all over you no matter what you do.
It was all pretty good.
Then, I started making pizza at home. The first couple of tries were awkward and clumsy, and ended up about the same as the stuff I was used to getting. But things continued to improve, as I kept working at it.
Nowadays, my pizza outstrips anything that could be purchased - it's taken years, but I've perfected a Chicago Style Stuffed that makes me realise that those other pizzas weren't even pies. Sometimes I keep it simple, and it's very, very good. Other times, when I've got time, I throw everything in the fridge in it as well as a few tricks I picked up from those high-end joints.
Either way, you're going to need that fork, not because it's so cheap and greasy - because it's so damned deep. But forget about the napkins.
It's going to get all over you no matter what you do.
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Re: Well said...
I did.lurch wrote:D of M...Yes , very true,,but please allow me to ask some rhetorical questions:...Did you believe the same when you were 15 or 22, or 35, etc?
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Lurch, rock on dude!
I agree with you.
Let me jump in here with some lowbrow comments that I can't believe haven't been uttered yet.
Sex is primeval.
It's deep dark and dirty, yeah baby!!
Anyway, lets start some gross generalizations:
For the most part, I know there are exceptions to every rule, sex is different for men as compared to woman.
For men, having sex can be as emotional as watching TV.
(actually having sex while watching TV is outstanding, but I'm lazy)
For woman, I heard this rumor about some kind of emotional attachment to sex.
What's that old saying?
Question "What does it take to give a man an erection?"
Answer "A strong breeze."
Speaking from personal experience, as a man, Men are visually stimulated.
We are like kids in a candy store when it comes to woman.
All this talk about emotional attachment makes sex better...........
Oh, ok.
Sex makes the emotional attachment better.
I never feel as close as I do to my wife as I do a few days after we have sex.
A few weeks later I wonder why my sister is living in my house (kidding!)
"Did you believe the same when you were 15 or 22, or 35, etc? "
As I get older I have changed my views.
But if I analyse my "fantasies" or "quirks" (good + normal btw) I can trace them back to things that I was exposed to and or relationships I had as a teen.
Teenage years are such a powerful time.
Sets the pace for so many things later in life.
I wonder what the absence of these experiences (sexual if not literal sex) has on a person?
By the time a person has reached early-to-mid-20s you've pretty much established some set patterns in your emotional/mental life.
Experimentaion has greatly diminished, imho.
Talking to a friend of mine, who never dated until his 30's, I was surprised when he related a few of his recent girlfriend exploits.
I was bored silly.
This man had been all around the world and seen and done things I had only dreamed and yet when he spoke about interacting with women sexually for the first time I felt like I was talking to a teenager.
That's natural for his situation I know but I was wondering if the reason he was having so much trouble getting a girlfriend was that a 30ish year old woman who had already had experience would also be bored with him.
I agree with you.
Let me jump in here with some lowbrow comments that I can't believe haven't been uttered yet.
Sex is primeval.
It's deep dark and dirty, yeah baby!!
Anyway, lets start some gross generalizations:
For the most part, I know there are exceptions to every rule, sex is different for men as compared to woman.
For men, having sex can be as emotional as watching TV.
(actually having sex while watching TV is outstanding, but I'm lazy)
For woman, I heard this rumor about some kind of emotional attachment to sex.
What's that old saying?
Question "What does it take to give a man an erection?"
Answer "A strong breeze."
Speaking from personal experience, as a man, Men are visually stimulated.
We are like kids in a candy store when it comes to woman.
All this talk about emotional attachment makes sex better...........
Oh, ok.
Sex makes the emotional attachment better.
I never feel as close as I do to my wife as I do a few days after we have sex.
A few weeks later I wonder why my sister is living in my house (kidding!)
"Did you believe the same when you were 15 or 22, or 35, etc? "
As I get older I have changed my views.
But if I analyse my "fantasies" or "quirks" (good + normal btw) I can trace them back to things that I was exposed to and or relationships I had as a teen.
Teenage years are such a powerful time.
Sets the pace for so many things later in life.
I wonder what the absence of these experiences (sexual if not literal sex) has on a person?
By the time a person has reached early-to-mid-20s you've pretty much established some set patterns in your emotional/mental life.
Experimentaion has greatly diminished, imho.
Talking to a friend of mine, who never dated until his 30's, I was surprised when he related a few of his recent girlfriend exploits.
I was bored silly.
This man had been all around the world and seen and done things I had only dreamed and yet when he spoke about interacting with women sexually for the first time I felt like I was talking to a teenager.
That's natural for his situation I know but I was wondering if the reason he was having so much trouble getting a girlfriend was that a 30ish year old woman who had already had experience would also be bored with him.
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Lurch, you seem to have this odd equation of passion=sex, which is ridiculous.
Life should certainly be approached and lived with passion, but sex has nothing to do with that - except just one thing of hundreds of things in life to be approached passionately.
At least, I think that's what you're saying...
Life should certainly be approached and lived with passion, but sex has nothing to do with that - except just one thing of hundreds of things in life to be approached passionately.
At least, I think that's what you're saying...
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I approach everything passionately (which is probably why I'm getting such a cheap trill from procrastinating on the incredible amount of work I should be doing right now) life is short and precious-savor EVERY moment! I love my wife more than anything-but show me a picture of Julianne Moore and I'll turn into a drooling mess!
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I've read a few articles recently about how today's generation of 20-somethings have been sexually active for so long and have had no boundaries whatsoever that quite a few of them are quite simply bored by sex. They go in search of ever more unusual forms of sexual expression just to feel that frisson of newness. To me that's sad, and could only happen if sex is reduced to the level of entertainment. Sex can certainly be had for shallow reasons, I'm not against that, but if that's the only way you roll, you'll find it ultimately empty.Plissken wrote:I would also like to point out that wanting the "Right One" more than just another one-night stand is not the province of all males - just the ones that haven't lived enough to appreciate how much better sex can be in a long term relationship with said "Right One".
I fully understand the "Just as There Is No Bad Pizza..." theory, but the difference can be truly staggering - after a while, it's just kinda "You know, if we're not going to be building anything here, I'll just stick to the self-gratification, if that's alright..."
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Oh my goodness..
...I find it difficult to conceive of the sex act without passion..oh well..good sex happens with a healthy quantity of passion....?...arousal isn't passion ?!!
Oh i see..its the age thing...part of the evolution thang I refered to. There is a art to bringing the embers up to full heat.something partners explore life long..yea..passion. ...MEL
Oh i see..its the age thing...part of the evolution thang I refered to. There is a art to bringing the embers up to full heat.something partners explore life long..yea..passion. ...MEL
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Re: Oh my goodness..
Arousal isn't passion. Passion is what you feel when doing what you love best to do. Arousal is just, well, arousal.lurch wrote:...I find it difficult to conceive of the sex act without passion..oh well..good sex happens with a healthy quantity of passion....?...arousal isn't passion ?!!
Oh i see..its the age thing...part of the evolution thang I refered to. There is a art to bringing the embers up to full heat.something partners explore life long..yea..passion. ...MEL
And I don't think it's and age thing for everybody. I think some people figure this out right out of the gate and that others are a bit slower. I myself was in the latter group (of course!).
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I might add that sexual energy can be redirected into other pursuits--such as art or writing or building or really, almost anything.
I don't think SEX is the only route to exploring and enjoying life to the fullest.
If sex is the end all and be all of life, then I am superfluous, and might as well just cease to exist.
heh heh
I don't think SEX is the only route to exploring and enjoying life to the fullest.
If sex is the end all and be all of life, then I am superfluous, and might as well just cease to exist.
heh heh
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Take that, you Varlet!