Is it so unbelievable that we made God up?
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Furls Fire
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I didn't make God up, He made me
And I believe in you
altho you never asked me too
I will remember you
and what life put you thru.
~fly fly little wing, fly where only angels sing~
~this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you~
...for then I could fly away and be at rest. Sweet rest, Mom. We all love and miss you.
altho you never asked me too
I will remember you
and what life put you thru.
~fly fly little wing, fly where only angels sing~
~this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you~
...for then I could fly away and be at rest. Sweet rest, Mom. We all love and miss you.
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Lord Mhoram
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This is, of course, an interesting question.
For me, I look at two things. One: World religions have been used, by and large, to control the masses. This is a fact. I'm sure that the 1st-century Palestinian Jew from Nazareth wouldn't have been able to fathom the world order that dictates the lives of well over a billion people two thousand years later, would spark from some of his teachings. But so it goes, as Vonnegut says. Looking at religion from this standpoint, the purely socio-political, the cynic says: Certainly, we made God up to control each other.
But there is a second aspect to world religions. Looking at it from a mystical sense, there are too many similiarities in the teachings of the founders of world religions: the Christ, Siddharta, Mohammad, Zoroaster, etc. Looking at this, I believe that there is some common thread to the human mystical experience. Chiefly, these similarities are part of the reason I'm basically an agnostic and not an atheist. This is also why I find religious wars, Christian vs. Jew, Christian vs. Muslim, to be darkly amusing - you are all so similar! Why do you fight?
For me, I look at two things. One: World religions have been used, by and large, to control the masses. This is a fact. I'm sure that the 1st-century Palestinian Jew from Nazareth wouldn't have been able to fathom the world order that dictates the lives of well over a billion people two thousand years later, would spark from some of his teachings. But so it goes, as Vonnegut says. Looking at religion from this standpoint, the purely socio-political, the cynic says: Certainly, we made God up to control each other.
But there is a second aspect to world religions. Looking at it from a mystical sense, there are too many similiarities in the teachings of the founders of world religions: the Christ, Siddharta, Mohammad, Zoroaster, etc. Looking at this, I believe that there is some common thread to the human mystical experience. Chiefly, these similarities are part of the reason I'm basically an agnostic and not an atheist. This is also why I find religious wars, Christian vs. Jew, Christian vs. Muslim, to be darkly amusing - you are all so similar! Why do you fight?
Heh, the devil's in the details, don't 'cha know.Lord Mhoram wrote:This is also why I find religious wars, Christian vs. Jew, Christian vs. Muslim, to be darkly amusing - you are all so similar! Why do you fight?
If God didn't exist, I could see a god being fabricated.
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Kinslaughterer
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Which god are we talking about? There has been quite a few made up and lots of things have been interpreted as gods yet were anything but.
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excellent point!!! after all, he said "thou shalt have no other gods before me."Kinslaughterer wrote:Which god are we talking about? There has been quite a few made up and lots of things have been interpreted as gods yet were anything but.
didn't say there WEREN'T any other gods.
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
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Lord Mhoram
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Lord Mhoram wrote:And in 1 Gn it says "create...in our image."
Polytheism was just a part of the time that these works were written in. It's totally natural.
thass what I'M talkin about. yo. we've only this one "book" or set of documents, if you will, to tell us he's the GOOD guy too. why am i suspicious?
*runs before they start throwin rocks*
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
