Shellfish are bottom-feeders. That means that, unless you've got proper storage and prep technique, you are opening yourself up to any bacteria that drops to the seafloor in the form of waste.
(And don't get me started on oyster "juice.")
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“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
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"If you're going to tell people the truth, you'd better make them laugh. Otherwise they'll kill you." - George Bernard Shaw
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"If you're going to tell people the truth, you'd better make them laugh. Otherwise they'll kill you." - George Bernard Shaw
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Sorry, I misread your letter to OSC. I thought it said sex with animals, and was surprised to learn it might transfer diseases to humans! 
Fist, you missed a great opportunity to take "bottom-feeders" and run like the wind.
I admire your restraint.
I admire your restraint.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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And didn't they once say that syphillis came from sheep? (or some such)-
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It is utterly amazing how little it takes to turn any thread into how attractive Cail is.
You're one magnificent bastard, C-Man!
You're one magnificent bastard, C-Man!
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"If you're going to tell people the truth, you'd better make them laugh. Otherwise they'll kill you." - George Bernard Shaw
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Who knows if a god can make mistakes? Like Cail said, we don't know anything abou it. When you were 5, did you think your parents could make mistakes? If there is any such thing as a god, I suspect we're the 5 year olds. I mean, you don't think god is gonna say, "Hey, look, I can make mistakes too you know," do you?Lord Mhoram wrote:Avatar, Fist,
So can a god make mistakes? If so, what sets a god apart from a human?
Of course, I don't think anything sets a god apart from humans. I think humans are the only god. And our gods are therefore human. (Pantheistic religions didn't have much problem with the idea that gods could make mistakes. And Monotheisms wanted a god who was better, so the whole "no mistakes" might just be PR.)
I think Fist has an excellent point. The only thing we know for sure about gods is that people worship them.
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How did they get their hands ond jummy shrimps, clams and oysters in the middle of the dessert anyway? Shelfish don't belong in desserts...... They belong in starters!
Edit: Can't BELIEVE I spelled yummy with a j!!! PLEASE don't think I'm Swedish, PLEASE!
Edit: Can't BELIEVE I spelled yummy with a j!!! PLEASE don't think I'm Swedish, PLEASE!
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"I would have gone to the thesaurus for a more erudite word."
-Hashi Lebwohl
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Wow! Remind me to never stray from this thread too long again!
Ok... to begin...
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People being made out of dust... A month or two ago, National Geographic published a report verifying that one of the main ingredients that made life possible on Earth was stardust, or the remaining dust from a Nova'd star... hmmm, interesting...
Living for the best part of a millenia... Two possible arguments come to mind... The first, and most likely was that instead of calendar years such as we use, thier "years" were based on seasonal and theological holidays, (i.e. planting, calving, Passover, Unleavened Bread, harvest etc... as well as any holidays that existed before denominational collectives, i.e. churches). But I like the second even better. Imagine if you will, the perfect human. He lives a millenia, never gets sick, and heals from wounds overnight, thanks to a literally perfect deoxyriboneucleic acid makeup. Perfect DNA that slowly falls prey to the chaos of genetic mixing. Not racial hybrids, mind you, but simply mating with ANY other type of human besides the Adamic strain, polluting thier genes with alien DNA, which would shorten thier lifespan, make them prey to bacteria, germs and viruses. Note that in the Bible, lifespans seem to shorten throughtout the OT...
As for the exclusion of the Gospels... the Council of Trent was more a political body than an ideological one, created for the sole purpose of ecumenical politics. Christianity was ascendant in those days, dwarfing the better known sun-worship, and absorbing any and all faiths that it could. Most books excised at the time were those that could not be altered to bring in more followers... Yet many of these "lost" books were preserved by the Agnostics of the time, and are even now coming to light...
Thats all I got for now, but I'll be coming back for more, never doubt!!!
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Planets being made in a week... If we equate size/distance to perception, an ant crossing the sidewalk would have to travel approx. two miles (to him) and it would take nearly an hour (to him). So if God is exponentially more vast than we, the creation of the universe (not just earth, read it again, it also says the heavens, or all that is not the earth) may seem to have taken billions of years (to us), and a week to Him... specious argument, I know, but since no one can disprove it, I'll let it stand.That's right. No more looking for logic in the bible, you poor misguided man.
Planets being made in a week, people being made out of dust and living for the best part of a millenia, "gospels" that were written 60 years after the death of Christ (over 30 of which were deemed not worthy of inclusion in the bible), whole books of the bible excised or amended because the church didn't like what they said - it'd never stand up in a court of law yet swearing on the bible is the highest oath we can take.
People being made out of dust... A month or two ago, National Geographic published a report verifying that one of the main ingredients that made life possible on Earth was stardust, or the remaining dust from a Nova'd star... hmmm, interesting...
Living for the best part of a millenia... Two possible arguments come to mind... The first, and most likely was that instead of calendar years such as we use, thier "years" were based on seasonal and theological holidays, (i.e. planting, calving, Passover, Unleavened Bread, harvest etc... as well as any holidays that existed before denominational collectives, i.e. churches). But I like the second even better. Imagine if you will, the perfect human. He lives a millenia, never gets sick, and heals from wounds overnight, thanks to a literally perfect deoxyriboneucleic acid makeup. Perfect DNA that slowly falls prey to the chaos of genetic mixing. Not racial hybrids, mind you, but simply mating with ANY other type of human besides the Adamic strain, polluting thier genes with alien DNA, which would shorten thier lifespan, make them prey to bacteria, germs and viruses. Note that in the Bible, lifespans seem to shorten throughtout the OT...
As for the exclusion of the Gospels... the Council of Trent was more a political body than an ideological one, created for the sole purpose of ecumenical politics. Christianity was ascendant in those days, dwarfing the better known sun-worship, and absorbing any and all faiths that it could. Most books excised at the time were those that could not be altered to bring in more followers... Yet many of these "lost" books were preserved by the Agnostics of the time, and are even now coming to light...
Thats all I got for now, but I'll be coming back for more, never doubt!!!
-B
"Fortunate circumstances do not equate to high ideals."
"Mostly muffins sir."- My answer in response to the question posed by the officer, "Son, do you have anything on you I should know about?"
His response: "Holy $&!^. He's not kidding! Look at all these muffins!"
"Mostly muffins sir."- My answer in response to the question posed by the officer, "Son, do you have anything on you I should know about?"
His response: "Holy $&!^. He's not kidding! Look at all these muffins!"
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Good post Barad. especially the point that 900 years may actually be divisible by festivals and seasons. (Must be both, because just seasons still gives you 225, but it's already starting to look more manageable.
And of course, as you point out, the politics of religion have never been avoided, and christianity was keen to get as many followers as possible.
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And of course, as you point out, the politics of religion have never been avoided, and christianity was keen to get as many followers as possible.
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It's a curse and a burden.Plissken wrote:It is utterly amazing how little it takes to turn any thread into how attractive Cail is.
You're one magnificent bastard, C-Man!
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Heh! Excellent avatar Marvin. We seem to be out of the shadow of the profet drawings now though, but we still appreciate any help you have to offer:D
(so perhaps you could help me by laughing at my (if I may say so myself) clever pun about the shellfish and the dessert?
(Histrionic, yes. I know. Can't help it)
(so perhaps you could help me by laughing at my (if I may say so myself) clever pun about the shellfish and the dessert?
(Histrionic, yes. I know. Can't help it)
"I would have gone to the thesaurus for a more erudite word."
-Hashi Lebwohl
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Besides that, despite what may be being taught in church these days, the rules and laws God set down, and the consequences He warned of, haven't changed one bit. It's the "religious leaders" and poloticians that have tried to change God's terms, and only the wary can avoid that trap...
-B
Better to say, "God's will doesn't change, but his Plan can and does." Imagine if you will, a gigantic tapestry, ever changing, shuttles and looms constantly making changes and alterations in order to keep the tapestry strong. It is our free will that forces God to make changes, but it is still perfect. The term imperfection does not necessarily mean "lack of perfection", but instead "perfection of imperfection". Is it God's "fault" that we do not always follow His Word? Sure, in a manner of speaking. He allowed us free will, so that we can make mistakes, and hopefully, learn from them. But does that mean He will allow us to ruin His Plan? Of course not, though He might have to make some changes in order to keep the Plan moving along...If we are to say that God is infinite, eternal, and perfect, then we must assume that His will does not change. If we assume that His will can change, then we must accept that He is not perfect. It all depends on how we are to perceive God's nature.
Besides that, despite what may be being taught in church these days, the rules and laws God set down, and the consequences He warned of, haven't changed one bit. It's the "religious leaders" and poloticians that have tried to change God's terms, and only the wary can avoid that trap...
-B
"Fortunate circumstances do not equate to high ideals."
"Mostly muffins sir."- My answer in response to the question posed by the officer, "Son, do you have anything on you I should know about?"
His response: "Holy $&!^. He's not kidding! Look at all these muffins!"
"Mostly muffins sir."- My answer in response to the question posed by the officer, "Son, do you have anything on you I should know about?"
His response: "Holy $&!^. He's not kidding! Look at all these muffins!"
As a basis, start with the Ten Commandments. Then read the Four Gospels, and take from Jesus what he expounds on. These laws and teachings should never be changed. If your religious leader/minister says differently, he is what is termed in the Book of Daniel and in Revelations as a "false Christ" or one of many "Antichrists"...
Again, I don't demand that anyone believes in God, but these particular teachings are shared in nearly every religion around the world, not just Christianity, and are the basic building blocks of humanity's moral compass...
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Again, I don't demand that anyone believes in God, but these particular teachings are shared in nearly every religion around the world, not just Christianity, and are the basic building blocks of humanity's moral compass...
-B
"Fortunate circumstances do not equate to high ideals."
"Mostly muffins sir."- My answer in response to the question posed by the officer, "Son, do you have anything on you I should know about?"
His response: "Holy $&!^. He's not kidding! Look at all these muffins!"
"Mostly muffins sir."- My answer in response to the question posed by the officer, "Son, do you have anything on you I should know about?"
His response: "Holy $&!^. He's not kidding! Look at all these muffins!"